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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My understanding and I am not religious, is he did actually exist.  [b]Now, the bigger question for me is did he really have these visions or did he have a mental illness?[/b][/quote]

I was raised religious, but am not today. It's interesting to think about. If people like the major historical religious (deities & prophets) figures did (or claimed to do), or said the same stuff today, they would be classified as bipoar, bpd, narcissistic, schizophrenic, completely making shit up, etc. The psychological standards have totally changed.

But because it was in the past... somehow we believe it. [/quote]

If you read the gospels, Jesus did not talk about himself *that* much.  He was under a lot of scrutiny, because the Jewish leaders were already having a freakout that people were calling him the Messiah.  So he mostly taught, talked in parables, and performed miracles.  Example:

[quote]13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[c] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[d] loosed in heaven.” 20 [b]Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.[/b][/quote][/quote]

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