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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Fine, I'll grant you that some researchers think there might be more than 1-in-1.1 million who are PG, but surely you'll acknowledge that the number is extremely small, right?  The very next sentence on the webpage (which you omitted) says that: "[i]Even the most generous over-prediction would affirm that exceptionally and profoundly gifted children comprise a tiny minority even among the gifted.[/i]"  Can we compromise on the rough estimates by agreeing that there likely will be one PG student in the greater DC area, not every 28 years as my math suggested, but rather every 14 years (twice as frequently!) to account for the belief of some researchers that profound giftedness might be more common?  Given the extreme rarity of the odds in either event, I don't want to argue over the specifics.[/quote]
No, I will not compromise on the rough estimates because I actually know several PG kids in the DC area, with verified scores. You may not believe it (and who would, since I'm an anonymous poster), but it's true.

I will add: there are about 53 million kids aged 5-17 in the U.S. By your first estimate, there would be 53 PG kids in the US. By your second estimate, there would be 106.

However, currently there are "more than 3000" kids in the Davidson Young Scholars program, for profoundly gifted kids (http://www.davidsongifted.org/youngscholars/). So maybe you might argue that their criteria is different (lower?) than the source you used. But that's still 3000+ kids who are, by some accounts, profoundly gifted and living in the US. (And whose parents did the application to get them in--no doubt others are unidentified.) That's much higher than your rough estimates.[/quote]
I think you may be misunderstanding the Davidson criteria (http://www.davidsongifted.org/youngscholars/Article/Davidson_Young_Scholars___Qualification_Criteria_384.aspx).  They seem to require a score of only 145 on just one subject matter test, not a full-scale score of 145.  And even a full-scale score of "merely" 145 on any test would not qualify for profoundly gifted status according to the link you posted earlier.  Seems to me Davidson's criteria are fine for catching gifted children, but certainly don't seem to limit the program to whatever "profoundly gifted" means.  As a result, I see no inconsistency between 3,000 Davidson kids versus only 50-100 kids in the US who are truly testing at PG levels.

Perhaps we should end our exchange now.  You claim to personally know several PG kids in the DC area right now, so I'm not going to convince you of anything.  And I am going to remain more convinced by my math and my research than by some anonymous poster's claims, so even if your anecdotes are true, I'm unlikely to change my mind based on your say-so.

Perhaps we just have different definitions of "profoundly gifted," in which case there's no point in taking up space with an argument over semantics.

What do you think?  Have we exhausted this issue?  Or is there any more discuss productively?[/quote]

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