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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why do gun promoters not take the data into consideration? Concealed carry does more harm than good:

[quote]...since 2007, at least 763 people have been killed in 579 shootings that did not involve self-defense. Tellingly, the vast majority of these concealed-carry, licensed shooters killed themselves or others rather than taking down a perpetrator.

The death toll includes 29 mass killings of three or more people by concealed carry shooters who took 139 lives; 17 police officers shot to death, and — in the ultimate contradiction of concealed carry as a personal safety factor — 223 suicides. Compared with the 579 non-self-defense, concealed-carry shootings, [b]there were only 21 cases in which self-defense was determined to be a factor.[/b][/quote]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/opinion/the-concealed-carry-fantasy.html[/quote]

The article is very misleading.  They are including all killings by a concealed carry person even when they are not actively concealing or even carrying the firearm.  Or if they used a firearm they don't have a permit to conceal carry.  Cases like a domestic fight in a home where they go and get the gun then shoot someone.  Or in the case of most suicides in the home where they go and get the gun.

To do this topic justice you would want stats that only included cases where a person is actively canceling and carrying the firearm on their person.

Lastly, one of the resources provided in the article does a better job of disusing justifiable homicides.
http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf[/quote]

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