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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Should be able  to enjoy activities, if they observe exisiting social mores. If you act loud and obnoxious - then no.[/quote]

The problem is that:

A) "Social mores" in this context is synonymous with "White social mores" and

B) Other people on the train at the same time claim the women were no louder than any other group[/quote]

There isn't a problem with white social mores. I don't go into black baptist churches and expect them to praise as they do a a quiet white Presbyterian. When in Rome dude.

Maybe they were loud and annoying - maybe they weren't. Not worth speculating about.[/quote]

Possibly the most racist thing I have read on DCUM and that is saying something[/quote]Yes, it sounds like that one poster thinks that black people should only act "black" when they're off with their own but the rest of the time they should make sure that all us fragile white anglo-saxon protestants are not made to feel uncomfortable.[/quote] it is rude to be loud and obnoxious in a public setting no matter what the color of the skin of the individuals involved.  It sound like you are the one with a racial issue.[/quote]There was a difference of opinion as to whether they were rude or obnoxious.  There are people who were on the train who said they weren't.  So unless I see video, I'm not going to say for sure how I would feel if I had been on that train.  Second, why do "quiet white Presbyterians" get to choose the tone for the wine train?  Are "black baptists" only welcome in public if they act like "quiet white Presbyterians"?  And "when in Rome" suggests that you think that the "quite white Presbyterians" ought to control how everyone else behaves on the wine train.  [/quote]

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