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And here we go on the merry-go-round again. Haven't these points been made before and all this discussed to death? Even the jizhya tax was thoroughly explained as a tax to DEFEND non-Muslims living under Muslim rule, should the community be under tax. Only Muslims were compelled to fight in war, not non-Muslims. As such, non-Muslims were protected by Muslims and the tax was compensation. Google this yourself rather than opening up another mind numbing debate. The commandment to kill was only in times of war and in self defense. After all, Muslims in the Quran are permitted to marry Jews and Christian women. So what, the Muslim God said marry the infidels, okay, but then kill them immediately after consummation? Thats the proof that the commandment to kill was only in times of war and self defense. End.Of.Story.[/quote]
The explanation of jizhya as the price of protection is only one interpretation, and it's not scripturally grounded. The only explanation of the non-Muslim tax in the Quran is that of an expression of submission - "until they pay the tax and consider themselves subdued."  It doesn't say "until they pay the tax so that they can be protected during wars." Quranically, jizhya is an acceptance of submission to the Muslim rule, nothing else. Additionally, unlike other fees collected by the Muslim state, the amount of jizhya has never been fixed. It's left to the discretion of the ruler.

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Exactly. Abrahamic faiths pay the tax to Muslims so that Muslims won't fight *them*, i.e. Muslims won't fight Christians or Jews who pay the tax and are sufficiently subdued. The choices for Abrahamic faiths being to convert to Islam, pay the tax, or die.  This can, and today is often, spun into "Christians or Jews don't have to fight anybody (Muslim or otherwise)." However, it seems unlikely the earliest Muslims wouldn't have wanted to fill their armies with Christians and Jews, even jizhya payers, who refused to convert to Islam.  [/quote]

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