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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just for the sake of argument, let's say you are right and it's just a story. What do believers lose?  Nothing, we are better off living our lives as Jesus wanted us to.  We aren't missing anything.  What do non believers lose if they are wrong?  Eternity    That's quite a gamble.[/quote]

No, you lose your individual free thought. You would have lived a life as a slave to an artificial story, praying to a God that doesn't exist, expended time and money on a lie that was completely unnecessary. You would have placed your faith on rules other men invented for you, instead of thinking critically to make up your own mind on what a rich and rewarding life is.

Given that this is the only life anyone of us has, do you want to live as a free person, or a slave to a religion?[/quote]

Wow.  Did it ever occur to you that the "time and money" spent is not wasted.  It goes to help people in need, which is exactly
what God asks us to do.  Assuming there isn't a God (I 100% believe there is) is that money now wasted?[/quote]

Churches are large and expensive to build, run, and maintain. Take a look at this:

http://web.archive.org/web/20141019033209/https://www.eccu.org/resources/advisorypanel/2013/surveyreports20

Based on this, the average church spends 82% of their income on personnel, admin, and facilities. Actual programs account for only 14%, and of those 5% are for worship/evangelism. So less than 10% of the Church's budget actually goes to "help people in need". If helping people in need is your goal, you can do a lot better than 10% efficiency.

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Would you care to specify an "invented rule" that would be harmful if followed?[/quote]

"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.  (Exodus 21:20-21)"

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.  (Ephesian)"

[quote=Anonymous]
Believers are plenty capable of thinking freely.  We choose to believe, not out of fear, but out of love and respect. I certainly do not feel like a slave. Have you ever read the bible?[/quote]That is clearly not true. It's a central argument of Christians that they get their morals from God. That is, without God, they would have no innate morals. How can you be a free thinker if someone else gave you your morals.

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