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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What about white kids and other non-Latino kids who have grown up in Spanish speaking countries?  Oil brats, military folks, Foreign Service?  Surely you are not suggesting that one must be Latino to be fully bilingual. [/quote]

A previous poster already explained this. It has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. It refers to one's primary language. If a military or embassy couple in Colombia has a kid there, is fully immersed in local culture and language, and as a result the kid feels most comfortable speaking Spanish, sure, he or she is Spanish dominant and can apply to one of those special spots at Oyster.

If not, he or she can apply to the school in the main English dominant group, like everyone else.[/quote]

I think some posters are utterly ignoring the point of being bilingual.  It's not just apples OR oranges, people.  And, Previous posters seem to be suggesting that one must be Latino to get a Spanish Dom spot, i.e:

"No, this is directed at the poster with the "white" kid who says that she lied to get in. OOB Latinos (of all races) are welcomed at Oyster. Non-Latinos who get their kids in via nanny or daycare Spanish, like you, are liars and thieves."

In other words, PP seems to be saying that bilingual Latinos are welcome, but bilingual white or black or green people are not.  This discussion is very one dimensional.  [/quote]

I don't think that anyone said that bilingual whites or blacks are not welcome at Oyster.  There are white, black and Asian Latinos.  Spaniards, according to the U.S. Census are also Latino.  The United States Census uses the term Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."  People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race."  That's a very broad definition.  Oyster has Latinos that look like every race on earth.[/quote]Are black, white or Asians not of hispanic origin, but natively fluent in Spanish welcome? By this thread it seems they are not. They have to have a classification of Latino. Every time someone mentions black and white people, someone reminds us that Latinos can be black and/or white. Great. Fine and dandy. Now can those without Latino or Hispanic heritage be considered for a Spanish dominant spot at Oyster. That is my question. If the answer is "no" Oyster won't be around for much longer. For one, when the generation of kids coming out of bilingual programs are parents, they are going to seek Spanish dom. classification for their kids. This will be because many of those kids will chose to immerse their own children in the Spanish language, the language they themselves learned in a bilingual program. If they marry a fellow immersion alum or a Spanish-speaker of Latino decent and raise their children bilingual there would be no grounds to refuse their non-Latino or half-Latino native speakers a Span. dom. seat. I've engaged the principal about this and she's level headed and understands this, unlike the strangely angry IBs families who want to preserve Spanish dom. seats for people only of Latin decent. Secondly, Spaniards from Spain are not Latino. If you understand the origin of the term, Latino was coined by a Frenchman to refer to the peoples of America whose language was of Latin origin, including Spanish, French and Portuguese. You should do your research before posting falsehoods on here.[/quote]

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