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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My question to OP is - how do you know that only 2 kids got into Ivies "without a tip"? Are you assuming that anyone who is an athlete, of color, a legacy, etc. would not have gotten into the Ivies otherwise? I realize that sometimes these things can make a difference in filling out a college class - but if you truly believe that this is the ONLY "tipping factor" for their acceptance, then you might want to reflect a little on your own lens of the world. I'm not saying this to dump on you, or to be mean...but making these sorts of assumptions doesn't make you look very good. It's just really offensive to discredit someone else's achievement by putting them into some "box" that suggests they only ended up there because of a "special favor"....this includes school acceptances, job title, etc. I suspect you may not realize it (as someone has hinted at) or even mean it...[/quote] OP here- I do know that only 2 of the people who went to ivies did not have a tip. I am not suggesting that the people with tips did not also have top grades, talents, scores etc and that they ONLY got in because of their tips, I am just saying that they had tips. I am not saying that they always used their tips- some had ivy legacy status and didn't use it to apply early when it can help. But they had the tip, even if they didn't use it. In addition, I know that there are resume lines that can help , such as girls applying for stem, intel winners, or singing stars etc- but I didn't add those in because those aren't necessarily so obvious in the little 2nd grader when he is accepted at the school. Please give me a little credit- I know who was minority and cum laude, and who wasn't. I know who the sports stars are. I know who spent every weekend raising money for a special charity. There are many fantastic people in this class. I am not discrediting anyone- almost all the kids in the class were hardworking and talented. I am saying that if your child does not have a tip, they might not get into an ivy until grad school. Also- of the 24 vanilla students I originally spoke of- I am not suggesting that they deserved to go anywhere other than where they went. If you are going to spend a lot of money on private school thinking that if your child is in the top 20% of the class they will go to an ivy- no it will not necessarily happen that way. Maybe if they have a tip as well. I think when most of the parents went to school the top 20percenters went to ivies- its not that way any more. I HOPE you can see that I am not looking at it thru any lens at all- not talking about what should be happening- merely what is happening.[/quote] And, in response to you: I am not sending my children to our private with the intention of getting them into any particular college. We pay for them to get a good education and be in an environment that fosters a love of learning, not learning for a specific "college outcome" (or test). We are not concerned with where other children go to school now and won't be concerned for college either. We don't care about the chances of our child going to an Ivy. We will have no hooks - just bright children who love to learn and hopefully won't burn out in HS. I am sure they will do fine wherever they go as long as we keep them grounded in what is important in life. DH and I have done perfectly fine after going to colleges that would be considered far below what would be considered competitive in the DC private world. We both got a great education, were in healthy environment to grow and mature as young adults, went to reputable grad schools and have successful careers. [/quote]
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