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[quote=Muslima][quote] Christians in Mosul, Armenians in Aleppo and Yazidis in Iraq have absolutely nothing to do with the Western aggression, and still ended up dead.[/quote] Just like civilians in Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but we killed over 500,000 of them and called it collateral damage. [quote]You talked about the political motivation behind ISIS in Iraq as a response to the allegedly sectarian Iraqi government that embraced Shias too tightly and marginalized Sunnis. You are being disingenuous if you do not admit that the hatred toward Shia "rafidah" is very much a part of the mainstream Sunni discourse, and has been for a long while before Al-Maliki was even born, and that discourse toward Shia is "we dominate you or we kill you." The Sunni discourse sees any, ANY Shia rule as illegitimate, and it doesn't even recognize Shias as complete Muslims. None of that would have changed if Al-Maliki was more open toward Sunnis. [/quote] I never said the political motivation behind ISIS was a response to a sectarian Iraqi government. Please read critically, I clearly stated that ISIS uses the sectarian Iraqi government 's treatment of Sunnis as a means and tool to recruit more Sunni fighters on its ranks, in other words, the conflict between Sunnis and Shias sustains ISIS. Now, let's look at the origins of ISIS. ISIS was started more than 2 decades ago by a Jordanian named Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who was a Mujahideen wannabe and went to Afghanistan to fight the Soviet Union in 1989 but he arrived there too late, so he returned to Jordan and became a non-factor for much of the following decade. In the early 2000s, he went back to Afghanistan and met Bin Laden but did not join Al Qaeda. After the fall of the Taliban Regime, he fled to Iraq where he remained unnoticed till Bush invaded Iraq in 2003. After the Iraq invasion, he set up the forerunner to today’s Islamic State: Jama’at al-Tawhid w’al-Jihad (the Party of Monotheism and Jihad) and started recruiting people to his cause. So yeh it goes way before Maliki and is political More on ISIS here http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/27/isis-monster-international-solution [quote]The textbooks of Saudi Arabia describe Shiaism as "shirk akbar", which makes their blood and wealth halal to take, and that was published and disseminated way before the whole Iraq affair. The Shia of Khazara were slaughtered by the violent Sunni Taliban way before the whole Iraq affair. Don't pretend it's about Maliki and his government. That's BS. [/quote] Well, I don't know how any Muslim can just declare the blood and wealth of another human being let alone Shia halal. I am Sunni and would never ever dream than anyone's blood is halal. Anyone can say anything, doesn't make it so. So the fact that it is written in a book somewhere in Saudi Arabia or Arizona doesn't make it so. The Shia-Sunni issue goes beyond the scope of this thread and can't be summarized in a few lines, but your approach is very simplistic! Sunnis and Shias have lived in perfect harmony for years, and still do in many areas of the world today. The original split of Muslims in the first place, that gave birth to Sunnis and Shias was Political not Religious, so to make this just a matter of Religion is misleading![/quote]
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