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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous wrote:

What is TOS?

Terms of Service. Jeff has prohibited the posting of just links (and in this case, verbatim snippets from the linked article) to the forums.

If you wish to say something about Common Core, you can incorporate your links, but at least express a point of view.

For the record, I think the articles are histrionic. Common Core is grossly misunderstood and very necessary for our country. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all to have a set of standards of what every child should know after completion of each grade. That's all Common Core does. I find the hand-wringing over it to be absurd. A bunch of right-wing mumbo jumbo about how it's Obama's fault and stuff, when in fact it was a carefully researched, bipartisan grassroots initiative. Common core is common sense.

I'm OP and my experience with Common Core is that my child now despises school. I hear this on Facebook from friends all across the country.

But good on you for being a rule follower! I see why Common Core has such appeal for you.

Common core doesn't have anything to do with "following rules." But, I guess if you heard something on Facebook, it must be true, right?

I don't even think you read the first article you posted. Those teachers haven't "soured" on Common Core. They're frustrated with the implementation and don't feel they've had enough time to learn the curriculum adopted to meet the standards.

My instruction for you today is to try a little harder to think critically. Stop believing everything you read on Facebook, stop thinking that rebellion for the sake of rebellion is virtuous, and stop resorting to ad hominem attacks when someone you disagree with expresses a viewpoint (that you did that only confirms that you cannot articulate WHY you don't like Common Core except to say your Facebook friends don't like it either). When you have done these things, you're welcome to engage this conversation again. Until then, please refrain from posting anymore. Thank you.
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Thank you, PP, for posting! This OP is clearly not able to parse out the issues in a critical way and is incredibly annoying in their obstinance.

Let's look at these links they posted. The first is about a dozen teachers in WA state who complain about having a sub shortage meaning they are unable to adequately receive training to implement the standards. This has nothing to do with the standards. This has to do with resources for implementation, a completely valid complaint, but NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL STANDARDS.

Then we have a few links that complain about the culture of standardized testing, which is not the same as the establishment of standards. Oh, and there is the article complaining that the standards won't allow for the study of higher math (which, again, has nothing to do with the standards but may have to do with faulty implementation.)

Then, our intrepid OP follows up with her real issue. Her son doesn't like school because of CC. This is hard to believe since I have yet to meet a student who understands CC enough to detest school because of them. She finishes with the very convincing fact that it must be true that CC is bad because so many of her Facebook friends think it is so.

I'm so tired of people like the OP who have no idea what they're talking about.[/quote]

It's you who haven't done your homework and are spouting Common Core marketing babble. From the above link, a confession from the lead writer of the Common Core Math Standards that hey don't prepare you for college math.

https://deutsch29.wordpress.com/2014/04/23/those-24-common-core-2009-work-group-members/

[b]Jason Zimba, another “lead writer” of the CCSS math[/b], holds a bachelors and masters in mathematics and another masters plus a doctorate in physics. Zimba once taught physics and mathematics at Bennington College; however, he is no longer there, and the link to his vita is dead. According to Zimba’s bio on the Student Achievement Partners (SAP) website (the company-gone-nonprofit that directed CCSS), Zimba has taught “disadvantaged high school students, and children of non-English speaking immigrants”; however, no details are provided regarding Zimba’s having any specific K-12 classroom teaching experience.

[b]The Baton Rouge Advocate includes this very telling observation by Zimba regarding the suitability of CCSS math for “college readiness”:

Jason Zimba, a professor of physics and math at Bennington College in Vermont and lead writer of the math standards, says they include “an awful lot of algebra before eighth grade,” even though the first full course doesn’t come until high school.

But Zimba also acknowledges that ending with the Common Core in high school could preclude students from attending elite colleges.[/b] In many cases, the Core is not aligned with the expectations at the collegiate level. “If you want to take calculus your freshman year in college, you will need to take more mathematics than is in the Common Core,” Zimba said

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