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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP here. There is "in addition" to academic merit, and there is "in place of". Athletes recruited by the Ivies need a minimum of a "B-" GPA according to an agreement signed by all the Ivy schools. Try getting in to an Ivy on merit alone with a GPA of B-. The SAT scores of recruited athletes also have a minimum that are hundreds of points lower than a true merit admission. Legacies do not have the same academic records often times - though there are some like my child who probably would have gotten in on his own. Why take the chance though! And plenty of check-the-box applicants who are held to different standards. See the lawsuit against Harvard for that discussion. So I wouldn't jump all over PP for not saying "in addition to" academic merit. That just simply isn't true in a lot of cases. If you can't admit that, then you don't live in the real world. [/quote]

Wow are your facts wrong!  Parent of a recruited athlete to Yale here.  You should do some research on how the Academic Index works before commenting.  The ignorance of your comments is astounding.[/quote]

Actually, this post is pretty darn accurate for Brown and Penn, since I had two sons recruited for different sports at both. Actually, the Washington Post published a lot of these same guidelines a few weeks ago. I remember the SAT minimums being under 2000 and one of my sons told he had to keep his GPA to a B- to get recruited to Penn. Hard to believe that Yale would do things radically different. But there's no doubt that athletes in demand do not need to be on par merit-wise with regular applicants.[/quote]

I think there could be a difference.  Yale is in an altogether different league than Penn.[/quote]

Haha. Actually since we are talking about sports here technically Yale is in exactly the same league as Penn. The Ivy League. [/quote]

+1.

Separately, a floor of B- is different from practice. I know 4 area athletic recruits to one Ivy (DC's Ivy for DC's year, although DC wasn't recruited, nor is DC the legacy from that inane post above). Of these 4 athletic recruits, 3 were NMSSFs (I simply don't know about the 4th). 2 were from area magnets, one was from a Big 3, and 1 was from a respected area public. The point is, these kids were smart. Now, none of these athletic recruits were for football, basketball or baseball, which may or may not dip down to the B- kids, but for these high-profile sports we're only talking about a relative handful of kids, max 1-2 from a given high school, and not all of the recruits will have B- averages anyway. [/quote]

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