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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Its been brutal at sidwell this year... lots of early deferrals and rejections, so far I believe my DDs class has had the following positive results:
1 to Stanford
1 to Harvard
1 to Cornell
1 to Brown
1 to Middlebury
We are waiting for Yale and UPenn early next week, which together take up around 35% of the class' early applicants (around 30 kids between them)[/quote]

You are light on the numbers at Harvard, Cornell, Dartmouth, and I think Brown.
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My DC is waiting for Princeton in Monday, and I think others in the SFS class also applied there. Only 1 to Stanford? Yikes. I know a few kids applied to Wharton, but that admits separate from the College at UPenn. Harvard deferred almost everyone it dodn't accept, so I am not sure how many outright rejections there were. I think one of my child's friends from this class also got into Duke. So nervewracking this early!![/quote]

One early to Stanford isn't bad. They are the stingiest with EA acceptances (lowest EA accept rate) with a lot of slots going to support their massive athletics program.  Being deferred into regular pool is very much the norm for even the strongest candidates.  Legacy status tends not to matter as much either.  The crowding effect at Yale and Penn are a bit concerning, however.[/quote]

Maybe all those posts about the evil college counselors who were being so horrible by trying to "steer people away from applying" to a particular school of their dreams bear some re-examination?  Hmmmmm . . . .[/quote]

No one characterized anyone as evil. We are talking about a system and not individuals. There is steering and so yes people get in. If you want it to be your child it is good to know how it all works. [/quote]

Sorry, but I don't accept your premise that college counselors routinely corrupt the process via invidious discrimination in their advice and support of applications -- which is the explicit premise of a 14 page thread with "discrimination" in the thread title.  There is no question that that line of argument is an attack on the integrity and honesty of college counselors.

If the issue is whether college counselors TRY TO COUNSEL PEOPLE, for example by trying not to have 30 people at one school all apply early to the same school?  Yes, I'd agree the system does that.  But we all know that's not what's being charged.  People are saying that the counselor is deliberately giving wrong advice to some children to help others.  And having met public and private college counselors over the years, and having paid attention to how college applications actually work, I think that's a factually false characterization and one that does a great disservice to college counselors.[/quote]

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