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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]is it possible that 95%-tile actually ranks them below avg in APS???[/quote]

Nope, but it really isn't special enough to need more than Arlington provides to the average kid.[/quote]

That's not necessarily true for all elementary schools in the APS system.  From anecdotal stories across schools, it's a mixed bag.

Now that 2014 CogAT scores are in, does anybody have an idea about score trends in their school?  And what cutoff their schools are using (if any) in order to provide additional services.[/quote]

I don't know what the trend is in our school, but the "cutoff" question was asked recently of my child's gifted resources teacher at a meeting.  First off, most kids are identified before the CogAT is given in 4th grade.  The GR teacher was not willing to give a cutoff number since there isn't one, but said that most identified kids are going to have scores clustered around the 130 mark, but that doesn't mean that some kids closer to 120, or even below, would be ruled out since it doesn't all come down to this one test.  Additionally, a kid could receive perfect scores in two of the ability areas but a low score in the third that drags down the composite.  So a poster child for math giftedness could totally blow the verbal part of the test and end up with a composite score that doesn't look that impressive.  He would still get gifted services in math.

The takeaway I got from that meeting was that in APS (or our school, anyway) the CogAT is more a tool for assessing kids' abilities for general teaching purposes rather than as a gifted resources identification tool, but that it CAN be used in conjunction with other assessments to identify some kids that haven't been ID'd already.[/quote]

That's a nice detailed answer. APS is not really clear about how CogATs are used. But from what I could *dig* out from our school, they said students who scored above a certain cutoff (around 96 percentile) would now be evaluated for gifted service if they were not already being provided the same. That does not mean they will necessarily get it but their files will be reviewed.  Guess this is better than the previous system which was perhaps not entirely objective. BTW 130 is around 97 percentile which is what your school GR said, seems like for APS, the trigger pt is around 96-97 percentile. One drawback of APS is that there does not seem to be level 3 equivalent pullout like FPS - in class differentiation is sketchy because its teacher dependent.[/quote]

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