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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you truly believe that one in five woman will be raped in college, then why on Earth do you sent them to college to be raped? You don't want them to be raped, do you?

Of course, you will send them anyway, because you know, deep down, that this is a bit of a bullshit stat and that actual rape -- as in being forcibly raped, or raped while unconscious, or passed out drunk, is less common.[/quote]

"Actual" rape? Charming.  What's it like living in the 1950s?  [/quote]

It's 2014, where a man can have sex with a woman, who does not object in anyway, and be branded a "rapist" because he "failed to obtain her enthusiastic consent."[/quote]

And even if he [b]does[/b] obtain her enthusiastic consent, he can [b]STILL[/b] be branded a rapist if the woman chooses to brand him that way.  [/quote]

You're mixing up a few big issues here.

- You're conflating legitimate accusations of rape with the fact that some people just suck, which is a whole different issue. Men and women both have been lying about sex, money, theft and thievery for millennia. False accusations of rape are awful too. But your approach has the effect of tarring legitimate accusations of rape with a broad brush of doubt.

- The real problems lie with the difficulty of ascertaining consented, for example when one or both parties are drunk. Nobody has easy answers here (cameras in every dorm room? no way.) But the solution is NOT to imply that most accusations are false.

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I dont think anyone implied that most accusations are false. On the other hand, I see a lot of feminists mis-using a stat that says 2-8 percent of accusations are false and using this as justification to publically destroy any male accused of rape without any trial because 98% are guilty anyway, because Statistics.

The 2-8 percent is for known false accusations. There are a large number of rape accusations that get dropped and we don't often know why. Maybe she was unfairly pressured to recant, or maybe she knew that her accusation was unfair and realized that she needed to stop before it went to trial.

The reality is that for most rape accusations, we really don't know what happened and never will. If we want to encourage people to come forward and tell the truth, we need a media and activist culture that does not constantly and villify and destroy either the accusor OR the accused.[/quote]

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