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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The issue is not just relying on test scores: it has to do with a concerted effort to limit Asians at some of these schools because they don't want a student population that is skewed towards Asians. This is outright racism and should not be tolerated. Check out this link and how blatant the discrimination is against Asians. [url]http://www.jewishjournal.com/thewideangle/item/tolerating_intolerance[/url][/quote] Cal Tech is over 60% Asian. I don't think that's discrimination.[/quote] And that is precisely why some of the elite colleges discriminate against Asians. They don't want a student population that looks like Cal Tech. It has nothing to do with wanting well rounded applicants ...... it has to do with wanting fewer Asians so that they don't end up looking like Cal Tech.[/quote]You could use the same argument about other races. Respectfully, do you feel that every university should be overwhelmingly Asian because statistically the number of Asian applicants has significantly increased?[/quote] Not at all. But the fact that elite schools do limit the number of Asians is not seriously debated any more. It is done under different guises but the end result is the same. Now whether this can be proven in court is a different issue.[/quote]I guarantee Harvard is going to pull out the big guns from their own law school and legal alumnus. And they will be backed by the contributors to their enormous endowment. I doubt Harvard will go the way of Cal Tech nor is that a bad thing. While I think Harvard will increase its Asian populace, I don't think it will ever be majority of Asian...nor Stanford, nor Yale, etc, etc.[/quote] [b]My view is that the racial composition of the students should not be a factor. The emphasis should be on the applicants who are the most qualified ...... and the most qualified does not mean merely those with the best test scores. [/b] But introducing criteria that has the ulterior motive of inhibiting any racial group is problematical. I recall the time not so long ago when Asians in the job market were viewed as being excellent technically but did not have "leadership" qualities. This is an argument that is not used for the most part today as Asians have ended up in senior management positions including heading some major corporations and also achieving leadership roles in other facets of life. As far as Harvard bringing out the big guns from their law school, you are making the assumption that these "big guns" agree with Harvard's current approach of limiting admissions when it comes to Asians. What I see as the main benefit of the lawsuit is that the very publicity will compel colleges like Harvard to take a more objective approach and focus less on a quota system. I also think that given the current composition of the SCOTUS and its previous opinions, it will be less than sympathetic to any arbitrary limitation of admissions with regard to any racial group.[/quote] So then you are cool with HYP being 97% Asian American? Aren't those universities supposed to represent the best and the brightest of ALL Americans (and international students, etc. etc.).[/quote]
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