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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A Liberal Arts degree is completely useless. I won't pay for that either. Judge away.[/quote] DH, a partner in a large law firm, majored in history. A close friend, highly regarded doctor at one of the best hospitals in the country, majored in philosophy. On the other hand, my brother who went to a highly regarded business school is unemployed.[/quote] So why didn't they stick with history or philosophy? Obviously, they realized the need to change course and were fortunate that they could. [/quote] Obviously, you did not benefit from an elite undergraduate institution. If you had, you would not be making such ignorant statements. As for the dad of 8 and the non-college educated successful entrepreneurs, they would benefit from a stats course. Anecdotes are not the same as data sets. Statistically, you are much more likely to live a middle class life, own property, save for retirement, and live longer IF you graduate from college. People who think that college is a waste of money do not understand that getting a degree is not just about the acquisition of information, it is about long-term commitment, group skills, networking, and exposure to multiple world views. [/quote] Do you have stats on CC to a state school vs a private SLAC vs working then going to college? I just think that it is a big waste to get a history degree at an expensive private college. Do you think a history degree from and elite institution will give somebody a better quality if life that engineering from MD?[/quote] Yes, if they don't want to be an engineer. And thats the point. Engineering degrees are great for engineers but we can't have a world of only engineers. We also need people who can think analytically, research, write for a whole variety of jobs. To put it another way, if someone forced me into engineering school, I would have a terrible quality of life.[/quote] But you WANT to be a lawyer? Really? Lawyers are not analytical, engineers are. They power through, memorize stuff and have miserable jobs for money. That is a terrible "quality of life". You are rewriting history to fit your idea of what happened. You were not good at much.. But you could read/memorize/take tests, you ended up in English/history for the lack of anything better to do and had to get an advanced degree to make it all worthwhile. [/quote] I went to a top Ivy, where memorization will get you nowhere. I wrote a major senior thesis. I have no idea why you think lawyers are not analytical. Have you ever read an appellate brief? Have you ever argued in court? Memorization gets you nowhere. And . . . I have worked in public interest jobs that paid very little but I loved the work. I am also a published writer. And, yes, I wanted to be a lawyer. You are just getting silly now and I think you are a troll. You can't imagine that someone with a humanities degree is actually happy? And your imagination is so limited you have no idea what anyone who isn't an engineer does for a living. Really, this is exhibit A for why getting the engineering degree doesn't teach you how to think.[/quote]
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