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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a parent of two bright kids - one at TJ and one in a private middle school - so much can affect whether a 7-year old gets tagged as gifted, which is what it takes to go without intervention into Fairfax AAP.  DC1 had a second grade teacher who cared about her AAP "graduates" because she was running a combined 1st and 2nd grade class (class sizes were such this had to happen) and a lot of parents were watching. So she certainly explained how to complete the AAP tests when given. DC1 was AAP and then accepted to TJ which is a great fit so far (as evidenced by hugh grades and 99th percentile standardized test scores since then).

A few years later, same school, DC2 had a different [b]depressed, noncommunicative[/b] 2nd grade teacher [b](subsequently dismissed[/b]) who could not [b]even be sure kids didn't leave the school grounds[/b] let alone tell them how to complete the test forms. Filling out standardized test forms isn't second nature to all 2nd graders (hence the test prep). DC2 got 99% on one AAP test and 40% on another. After other testing to see if there was a cognitive issue (there wasn't) [b]to the best we could determine the teacher simply didn't explain how to complete the test[/b]. And as a result DC2 was going to be labeled "less smart", "only average" or whatever.  Instead, we went top private and DC2 is at the top of the class.

So the test results gathered by FCPS can be grossly flawed. Drawing conclusions from them across the board is a mistake. But the kids do adopt the labels. When DC2 said "it's ok mommy, I will be the athlete in the family and DC1 can be the smart one" --- coming from a 7-year old! -- I decided DC2 had to get away from that environment quickly. And results in a highly competitve private school (as well as many other standardized tests since 2nd grade) demonstrate that the measure at age 7 was just inaccurate and not predictive of anything.

So think before you call someone's 8-year old not smart. Do you really know that? The selection process is definitely biased and flawed based on luck of the draw in teachers. [/quote]

Your description of the second grade teacher makes your post not believable.  Even the last part bolded above shows you purely guess it was the teacher's issue, not your kid's.  These teachers read a script on test days and they all do a practice run together.  [/quote]

Are you the same poster who keeps trying to discredit people by saying their posts aren't "believable"?  Frankly, it is your posts that are questionable.  Clearly, you're the one with the agenda and nothing to back it up.  One of the laziest ways of disagreeing with someone is to call them out as fabricators, liars, etc. because you simply don't like what they're saying.  It's very simplistic and ineffective.  And tiresome.[/quote]

Nope...first time I've said that, so new poster.  I said it because the bolded parts made her seem not believable.  How does she know the teacher was discharged?  What second grade teacher has trouble keeping kids from wandering off?  She went from saying the teacher was "depressed" and "no communicative" to saying the "best we could determine" was it was the teacher's fault for the low test result.[/quote]

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