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[quote=Anonymous][quote]So liberal Christians are going to hell? with the atheists and the unrepentant criminals?[/quote] From [url]http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/controversial-issues/liberalism/christianity-and-liberalism-salvation-by-j-gresham-machen/[/url] [i][b]Jesus is our Saviour, not by virtue of what He said, not even by virtue of what He was, but by what He did. He is our Saviour, not because He has inspired us to live the same kind of life that He lived, but because He took upon Himself the dreadful guilt of our sins and bore it instead of us on the cross. Such is the Christian conception of the Cross of Christ.[/i][/b] If a person believes there are other ways to get to heaven that person is in effect saying "Yeah, so what Jesus. I can get to heaven by being a good and tolerant person. God will see my good intentions and count that in my favor." Sorry, but that will not get a person into heaven. John 10:1 [i]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.[/i] Jesus is that door. A person, liberal or whatever, can hold any opinion they please concerning politics and such, but concerning salvation Jesus is the only way. Period. If that person does not accept what Jesus did as the only way to heaven, [u]as stated in the bible,[/u] then that person, liberal or otherwise, is not going to heaven but instead shall be cast into hell which is the 2nd death. This is why in 2nd Corinthians 13:5 it says [i]Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?[/i] People who call themselves Christians need to examine themselves and test to see if what they believe lines up with what Jesus said concerning who he is (the son of God) and what he did on the cross so that we may avoid being cast into hell. I personally cannot point a finger at a liberal Christian, or even the most fire & brimstone Christian, and say whether that person is going to heaven or not because I cannot know how that person truly believes. However, I can get a good idea by their actions, their fruits if you will. If a person says "I am a Christian" yet, that person is smoking marijuana, covered in tattoos, and soliciting sex in a bar I am quite justified in raising doubts about that person's salvation. A Christian does not do such things. It would be abhorrent and certainly contrary to how the bible says we ought to live. Matthew 7 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. So what are the fruits of a Liberal Christian? Is it proclaiming the gospel that Jesus died for our sins for salvation, or is it "Oh, just be good and tolerant and God will let you right in to heaven because he's really a nice, cool guy who doesn't care if you are queer or an adulterer or liar or anything dirty or bad. Just say Jesus is cool and you got it made!" Again, all who call themselves Christian, examine yourselves to see if you are in the faith. It is impossible for me or anyone else to do that, nor do I care to make blanket statements concerning who is going to hell and who isn't. That is not my purview nor do I want it to be. [/quote]
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