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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Probably true, but the vast majority of IT jobs don't require an advanced degree.[/quote]

The jobs that don't require the degrees though are the ones the Americans are in. The higher level software engineers, architects, chief tech officer positions etc have advanced degrees and usually did not go through a US K-12 school system. [/quote]

That's not been my experience in my 15+ yrs in IT.  [b]The higher level people are usually US educated people, and the lower level drone techies are the H1Bs from foreign countries. [/b] There are several upper level people that have been educated in foreign countries, to be sure, but the vast majority that I've seen have been educated here.  Maybe that will change in 10 yrs, but this isn't the case currently.

And actually, one of the reasons why a lot of the low-level techies come from Asian countries is because, although they can write code (or do complex math problems), their educational system historically taught math in rote fashion.  I think this has been changing in the past few years. They, too, are now focusing more on critical thinking skills.  But my experience in the past with a lot of the H1Bs has been that they are fine when you tell them exactly what to do, but they would lack critical thinking skills or thinking outside the box.  Again, this is changing, and of course, there are outliers - I've worked with some H1Bs techies that were awesome.

This is why Bill Gates was a champion of CC.. because he saw that in the tech field at least, there was a serious lack of critical thinking, problems solving, thinking outside the box skills.  Too much rote...just memorize a formula and plug in the numbers.  That's how I learned it, too, in the US.

I think people are confusing accelerated math with really understanding math.  You can be in an accelerated math program but lack understanding of the concepts. I think some parents and teachers have posted as much here on DCUM about how in the past this very thing was happening.[/quote]

My experience as well.[/quote]

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