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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]PP, I'm confused. What are his beliefs about contraception and non-abortion women's reproductive rights? Is his stance that women should have to pay for these things themselves? That they should not be covered by insurance?[/quote]

That was definitely his position with regard to our Hobby Lobby argument. Why should the government force insurance companies to cover it just so that women can have sex, was basically his view, only in many, many more words. I see that as a perceptible shift from, why should the government force insurance companies to cover anything, which is a fine policy view to have if you have a different conception of gov't. For the record, he is 100% on board with the individual mandate.

Also: If you (a woman) want to have sex, you (a woman) should be responsible for the consequences. And: I don't care that clinics that provide gynecologic care to women are being forced to close due to restrictive abortion laws, they aren't entitled to free care. Etc. I consider all of these things to be feminist issues. I get how reasonable people can disagree, but like I said, he's otherwise socially liberal, votes Democratic, is down with equal treatment for women, and is not religious. Except for the latent Catholic guilt. Maybe that explains it all... [/quote]

I think these issues get super-conflated.  For the record, I'm a progressive male (PP@11:08), and I was horrified by the BS Hobby Lobby decision and the radical new precedent it sets, and further I support making contraception free as a part of a health-insurance package.

That said, some people do prefer to draw the boundaries of health-care insurance as purely covering responses to medical issues, essentially: no preventative care.  Of course, that means no EKGs, no routine blood tests...it gets to be a problem for almost all care.

Or does your husband think it's only sex we shouldn't pay for? In which case, no viagra either!

Finally, I don't believe his statements are sexist actually; they are incredibly short-sighted and preoccupied with making sure someone doesn't "get something for free" in a move that amounts to cutting your nose off to spite yourself.  Contraception is a hell of a lot cheaper than pregnancy, and unless he's insisting that pregnancy isn't a medical condition.  What's stupid is that people will have sex anyway - the current baby boom in DC is a result of people having too much time on their hands and having more sex.  Your premiums will be higher because of those pregnancies; you will be paying more for those people having sex than if you'd paid for the contraception.

In other words: he's an idiot but not a chauvanist.  It's like people arguing with gravity or evolution - you can insist that people who can't afford it should have sex, but that's not going to stop them...because the sex itself is free.  [/quote]

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