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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous

Israel has lost its damn mind.
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No they are just expressing their mind. Israelis is made up of self selected radicals. You do not move to Israel b/c you think it will be fun, you move there to join the Jewish fight. It like a bunch of tea partiers deciding to forming a country in Texas. You will get the most most radical of the radicals, willing to kill.[/quote]

That's not entirely true. Some of moved for economic reasons or due to prejudice in their original country.

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Jeff - I've disagreed with a lot of what you've said on various threads, but I've always recognized that you are well informed and do your research. But not on this one. Your statement is very ill-informed. There are lots (and lots) of reasons why people have been moving to Israel for close to 70 years. To phrase it the way you have makes it sound like it's a either a matter of convenience or because they want to join some religious war. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are plenty of peace-loving Jews who moved to Israel for a lot of reasons that aren't economic, related to prejudice or because they hate palestinians. Comments like yours do a disservice to those people who are a voice of reason that needs to be heard.[/quote]

Where the hell did I say anyone moved because they hated Palestinians? Jesus Christ. It's a wonder I have any reason left with which to be reasonable when I am held accountable for things I didn't say and don't even believe. Here is a fact: the largest recent influx to Israel came from former Soviet countries. Most of those individuals were barely religious. They came because their home countries were collapsing and Jews weren't treated particularly good in the best of times, let alone bad times. Moreover, I never said my list of reasons was all-inclusive. I was correctly someone who suggested only hardcore "super Jews" moved to Israel. That simply is not the case. Of course their are additional reasons.
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A. I never said that you were the one who said it was about hatred of palestinians / religious war, that was from the earlier post, so you were not being held accountable.
B. That's the most recent influx. But there are many, many, people who have been moving to Israel for a long time for a lot of non-religious reasons. Frankly, I'd argue that the black hats and the ultra-religious wingnuts who like to roam around the occupied territories with their legions of children, ruined a damn good thing for the secular zionists (yeah I said it, zionists!) who moved to israel in the 50's, 60's and 70's.
C. You may not have said it wasn't all-inclusive, but it could be read that way. Ordinarily I don't parse words to this extent, but this is an extremely touchy subject and we all need to be careful about what we say and how we say it.
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