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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Israel negotiates in [b]good faith [/b]toward a two state solution with security guarantees for all.

Abbas and Fatah also generally seem to negotiate in good faith toward this mutually beneficial goal.

Hamas stays true to its charter goal of the destruction of Israel. Hamas lives up to its official designation as a terrorist organization. The current violence is entirely due to Hamas.[/quote]
Good faith? What the fuck are you smoking? Israel has worked to derail the two state solution for the past 20 years. Ever notice all the settlements and siege of Gaza? [/quote]

In the 1990s, in the era of Clinton and the Oslo accords, Israelis worked for peace and a vision of Israel and Palestine growing together. But a lot of people lost their faith in "peace process" when Hamas etc derailed the peace with bus bombings that killed and maimed many civilians in Israel. This changed the culture. Many Israelis saw that the Hamas terrorism only increased during the peace process. There is no peace with terrorists. They think they can achieve their aim of destroying Israel through violence. Hamas must be defeated.[/quote]

This is simply not true.

[quote] I mean, it's a very narrow kind of context that doesn't widen the picture.
There are two kinds of contexts one should point to in order to understand the situation. One refers to a more immediate past and one to a more distant one.
The more immediate past that is relevant to what goes on should take us back to just a month or two months ago, when Israel decided to use the pretext of an abduction and killing of three settlers in order to implement a plan that it already had in mind many years ago, and that is a plan to try and destroy the Hamas as a political force in the West Bank, and if possible also the military force in the Gaza Strip.
The reason that Israel chose this particular timing for this initiative was the creation of a unity government and the fact that the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank decided to try a new strategy, with the help of the Hamas, to go to the international community, especially to the United Nations, and demand an engagement with the 46 year long Israeli occupation on the basis of a human rights and civil rights agenda, which Israel totally refuses.
So the Hamas was keeping its part of the deal, back from 2012, for a long ceasefire, but Israel broke it, violated the ceasefire, by arresting all the political leadership and activists in the West Bank, including those Israel was pledged to release under the prisoner exchange deal known as the Shalit exchange deal.
So that's the immediate background, but there's far more important, probably, and deeper historical background.
[b]Since 2006, since the people of Gaza elected democratically the Hamas to try and take them out of the ghetto that Israel created to them long before the Hamas took over Gaza, already 1994--because of the special location, geopolitical location of the Gaza Strip, Israel doesn't really know what to do with it, so it ghettoized it already in 1994. The PA or the Fatah failed to salvage the people of Gaza from that situation. So the people of Gaza gave a chance to the Hamas. And the Israeli reaction was, even at first, a brutal military response to this election. And so the whole issue of how the Hamas responded, namely, through the launching of missiles, has to be seen in this context. It may be there is another way. I'm not sure there is, but definitely this is a response to a policy of strangulation, of siege, of starvation. It's not coming out of blue as one would have thought that one can understand from the way Bill Clinton and others in the United States describe the context of this crisis.[/b][/quote]

by Ilan Pappe, an Israeli historian and socialist activist.[/quote]

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