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NP here. Love your condescending tone. I also appreciate how, when PP describes the unemployment and bankruptcies that result from the demise of US-based companies, your best retort is to charge that PP thinks everyone deserves "new cars" and "designer clothes."

Those darn unions, fighting for the rights of factory workers everywhere to wear Chanel and drive Mercedes!

You Tea Partiers can't argue honestly to save your lives.[/quote]

Your missing the point.  Lets say the average factor worker was earning $25 an hour.  Is it better to have an across the board 20% wage deduction or close up the shop and layoff everyone?  I $20 an hour job with benefits is way better than no job.  And depending on where you live, a $20 an hour job is probably way higher than a living wage job.[/quote]

If that's what you meant, you should have just said that. Instead you ranted about designer clothes and new cars (which you conveniently clippped off when you copied my quote).

I agree there's room for negotiation. But you slammed PP without trying to find out if there were wage reductions before the company was sold.[/quote]

If you had read all the posts, you would of seen that's what was originally stated.  Then the topic of living wages was brought up. Followed by you getting involved.[/quote]

Oh please. You are belligerent and confrontational, for sure. That doesn't give you license to re-interpret and distort the thread.  [b]You're[/b] the one who interpreted PP's father's company's "living wage" as providing "designer clothes" and "new cars." Those were your very own words.

I'm done with you. Not because you're patently stupid. But because it's impossibly to debate people who [b]lie[/b], even about simple things like thread posts that anybody can go back and check.
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Again, go back and read the posts.  The PP stated they were highly skilled workers.  They now had new jobs in the services area but at lower wages.  Here, I'll quote it for you:
[quote]My father and the few executives who ran the company were not the sob story. Those who suffered mightily, are the highly skilled blue collar workers who lost their jobs, their pensions, etc. Most of them have never been able to replace that income. They have taken up service oriented jobs that do not pay what their manufacturing jobs once paid. [/quote]

That quote implies they were paid above a living wage.  And common sense implies a highly skilled blue blue color worker earns more than a living wage, contrary to what the PP stated.  So I pointed out to the PP what a living wage is and isn't.  Now if you want to argue what a living wage is or how I described it fine.[/quote]

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