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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Correct. Athletic recruits are held to a lower standard, even in the Ivies. The more they want you, the lower they will persuade the admissions office to go. (Not the PP.)

14:10 That is not what I meant in the least. I was referring to the discussion about Ivy versus SLAC and that it can take several forms including Ivy versus whatever you want to call Wash U/Chicago/Northwestern/et alia and that as a culture we've become obsession with Ivies -- I wasn't thinking of Ivy alum, I was referring to the current state of Ivy aspirants. I did make a separate point about Ivy arrogance. More than once I've sat in a room full of Ivy alum who must have forgotten I didn't go to school with them. It wasn't pretty.[/quote]

We'll have to agree to disagree.  I don't see any obsession with Ivies as "a culture."  I see a certain sub-culture, largely Asian-American, that places a very high and unapologetic premium on kids getting into marquee schools, including but not limited to Ivies.  Most people are not so laser-focused, nor should they be.  There are lots of great schools out there, SLACs among them.

And the only time I sit in rooms full of Ivy alums are at occasional reunions, and we're just getting older, more boring, and more set in our ways as we age, like most everyone else. [/quote]

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