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That's not really how I interpreted it.  The 0-30% group had a slight improvement, but that also included the 0-20% group as well.  To really support the claim you're making they would have had to be able to break out the 0-20% from the 20-30% which I don't think the data supported.  In other words it's entirely possible that all of the gains in the 0-30 group were driven by kids in the 0-20 group.[/quote]

Agreed that it's possible. But we don't know. What we do know is that the study showed improvement in math scores for 0-20% vs. 20-85%, 0-25% vs. 25-85%, 0-30% vs. 30-85%, and even 0-35% vs. 35-85% (in year 7) -- see Appendix 3. So it is really not valid to say that the study showed that there was improvement only if FARMS was 20% or less.[/quote]

I'm not the one making that statement; I'm repeating the statement made in the executive summary of the report.  If they could have made the claims you suggest and backed them up statistically they would have.  I think you're over interpreting some summary graphs. The language they use is very clear:

Children who lived in public housing and attended schools where no more than 20 percent of students qualified for a free or reduced price meal did best, whereas those children in public housing who attended schools where as [b]many as 35 percent of students[/b] who qualified for a free or reduced price meal performed no better academically over time than public housing children who attended schools where 35 to 85 percent of students qualified for a free or reduced price meal.[/quote]

Yes, that's what the executive summary says. But the data they included in their report don't support that statement. If they had data that do support that statement, they should have included them in the report.

tl;dr -- look at all the data, not just what the executive summary (or the abstract) says.[/quote]

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