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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here - I'm a little skeptical about the change of heart later in a woman's life. And the skepticism comes from a seed of doubt planted by the MRAs. Their contention is that women only pick "betas" (which I assume approximates the shy, smart guys) after their looks are starting to decline, their choices in men are or will soon become more limited, and their interest shifts from sexual attraction to more pragmatic concerns about long term loyalty and resources. In other words, "betas" only stand a chance when sexual attraction becomes a woman's secondary concern. [/quote]

Tucker Max, is that you?  Seriously, there are many stops along the range from jock/big man on campus who has women throwing themselves at him and treats them like crap vs. insecure "average guy" desperate to get a date and women sense that.  Anyone I have ever broken up with has never been about not being alpha enough, but more a situation that ran it's course or we just wanted different things after a while.  I don't think my wife married me because she saw in me a stable beta and some more exciting guys earlier in her life dumped her.  Men and women wind up with each other for all kinds of reasons.[/quote]

I don't get the Tucker Max reference? But, in any event, I definitely recognize there is a huge spectrum of guys and it's always going to be a mixed bag. That's why I mentioned in the original post that obviously, if given a choice, a woman is going to prefer confident *and* nice. It's just that in an either/or situation, my experience (growing up anyway) was that the confident douchebag was going to win out over the shy, decent guy. [/quote]

Because Tucker's whole deal is that drinking and finding women that drink, along with being an a-hole are going to get you laid while being a good guy is a bad strategy.  But then look at it this way, would you want to be involved with the type of woman who is interested in an arrogant jock/fratboy douche anyway?  Let's say a woman is very good looking and is purely honing in on a guy who is on a sports team or a frat member who has money.  Do you want someone that superficial?  Would you expend energy to try and date one?  I was a shy guy in college and started coming into my own during my mid-20s.  My girlfriend for two years was average looking but one of the greatest people I have ever met.  Why would I care what some jock or douchebag was getting when I was happy with my girl?[/quote]

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