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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^Some people don't like or can't handle dogs, don't like kids, and can't even keep their own house clean.  All about what you are capable of doing whether professionally or not.  No one should ever try and dictate how you should earn your money during this shutdown but preferably legal.  [/quote]

Sorry, but that's just wrong.  You took an oath as a federal employee to abide by ethics regulations including conflict of interest, so in some cases there is an interest of your agency/dept. in what you do even during a furlough.  It may suck but it also is the law.[/quote]IYep, it sucks.  What happens if this 'ethical manager' decides that your choice of work doesn't meet, in his opinion, the social status of the department or his personal expectations?  This so-called ethical manager may not find working at Starbucks acceptable for a government lawyer.  Or you'd like to wait tables at a gentlemen's club to pick up big tips?  All perfectly legal.  Yes, it happened to a co-worker who wanted to pickup super big tips by waiting tables for tuition but was advised Ihop would be a better choice.  Good thing The Playboy Clubs are closed.  She would have been fired for working as a Playboy Bunny.

There is a lot of personal bias with ethics.[/quote]

PP here ... your statement is actually pretty ignorant and unconnected to the reality of what I saw in 15+ years as a DEO.  Ethics officials (not "ethical manager[s]") interpret OGE's regulations and agency supplemental regulations, and applicable statutes.  They don't do personal taste tests.  If you find one who does, contact the Ofc. of Govt. Ethics and you can get a second opinion and if the agency ADEO or DEO is wrong, they'll tell them so (I have seen it happen).

An ethics official who says a govt. lawyer can't work at Starbucks is wrong (based on the OGE regs. and all the supplemental agency regs I've seen).  Can't say about the other example without knowing what agency, what her job was, etc., but there are avenues of appeal.

But, bottom line, you're not even in the ballpark as far as understanding the ethics regs or the process for interpreting and enforcing them. :roll: [/quote]Where the hell do you get that it is all about what YOU saw and what YOU approved or disapproved during your 15+ years.  You are not the only game in town and different officials will view situations differently.  Get off your damn high horse.  I find your sense of self-importance pretty ignorant and unconnected to reality.  You are not above reproach nor are you the final authority on anything.[/quote]

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