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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm the PP who doesn't understand (appreciate?) the anti-OB mindset.  My OB is very pro-natural childbirth and last appointment told me that her job, other than ensuring a healthy mom and baby, is to ensure I don't end up with a C-Section.

With the midwives, they often don't educate their patients about the realities of pregnancy complications. When I listen to midwife patients (I'm in a childbirth class), I often can't believe how innocent they are.  I'd rather, personally, have a provider who is realistic to the risks than pretends it's all roses and cupcakes and tubs of flowing water.  It's often not.  [b]And the GW midwives, who often fail to educate on these issues, benefit from the OB swooping in the basically save the day.[/b]

Anyone can attempt to have as natural a childbirth as they seek - I think you're going to find more flexible care with some local, younger OBs than with many of the midwives who are very judgmental.

I went to Meet the Midwives and decided against it because I felt like they didn't care about me.  I never felt that way with my OB.  Everyone is different, and the only sure bet is to be an educated patient. [/quote]

You have a chip on your shoulder the size of Detroit, and I'm not sure why, but since you are not a patient of the GW midwives, how the F do you know they "often fail" to educate on the issues? I don't even believe you went to meet the midwives, since they spend time at that session talking about when childbirth does NOT go through door number 1, i.e. the normal childbirth. You are welcome to your opinion, but I sure do wish you'd keep the inaccurate depictions of a practice you don't belong to, to yourself. I'm a patient of the GW midwives, and I've found that they are clear as a bell on complications (I have some). They are actually more pro-intervention on some things than my first OB was, so I'm not in complete disagreement with folks who say that some OBs can be less intervention happy than some midwives. But a midwife and an OB specialize in different things.  Your rancor toward the midwives is really hard for me to understand, but I am sure you have your reasons. It would be good for you to advise on your opinion only, though, and not try to give factual information that you don't possess. [/quote]

Because I would say 90% of the pregnant women I know are with wisdom, and their lack of understand of the basic complications shocks me.  Perhaps it's because there's always an OB back up, there is a the little luxury of "if something does need to be taken care of, there's someone there".

And i could easily say the same thing about how people respond to OBs here.  I'm obviously stating my opinion and experience. I don't know anything else about any medical provider.  Neither does anyone else.  And yes, I met with the midwives (prior to getting pregnant).  I was not a good "candidate" because I was open about my belief that the worst thing in the world isn't a C Section (not that I want one, but I understand there are reasons when they are appropriate and save lives). [/quote]

The "basic complications" meaning what?  Do you mean "what can commonly happen" or "the complications they have, which are run-of-the-mill"?   It sounds like you mean the former, in which case I wonder why you think women necessarily need to become experts in pregnancy complications they don't have. If it's the latter then isn't it the fault of the GW OBs for not doing THEIR job ("swooping in to save the day," which sounds lik eyou meant it as an insult, but is really just a description of the model of care)?

And if "90% of the pregnant women you know are with [GW midwives]," then how do you know the lack of awareness of "basic complications" is a result of midwifery or midwifery at GW, and not of the pregnant woman's personality/curiosity?[/quote]

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