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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I find atheists generally are rather defensive about their views and tend to be unable to explain their position without espousing some negative stereotype about religions or some vague attack on "organized" religion.[/quote]

I think this confuses two threads of argument. Yes, atheists will of course talk about the negative impact religious belief has had throughout history and in the modern world.

The argument that most Christians put forth here are that a) religious belief is a force for good in the world; and b) religious belief is "rational".

Having made that argument, "believers" are shocked, shocked I tell you, that the people they're arguing against construct an argument that a) religious belief is *not* a force for good in the world (i.e. teaches morals, brings people together, etc...); and that b) there's no rational basis for religious belief (e.g. "Why not Poseidon?").

I mean, seriously, what on Earth did you think was going to happen when you made these two claims in a forum that has a reputation for vigorous debate? Your problem isn't with atheists, but with dialogue.[/quote]

PS. You are confused. Scorn and mockery and references to the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" are not the same thing as "constructing an argument." Don't par yourself on the back so hard, you might get even more twisted up about what the phrase "construct an argument" actually means.[/quote]

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