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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another conservative here--the anti gay agenda is mainly religious and sorry to say..lots of Dems are religious and anti gay--look at the state of California. [b]Look at the African American community..lots of dems there and this community is notorious for not being accepting who aren't straight (this is where the terms on the down low came from) [/b]As a true conservative I think everyone  minds their own business and as little of government infringing on that as possible. I also think the world is changing. It used to be your only exposure to gay lifestyle was on cable (sex shows and I mean the hard core stuff not "L word" and coverage of the "gay pride" parade and sorry guys in leather with long mustache it was hard to take that seriously. Now more gay people are out and just living their lives and surprise most people are completely fine with that. My aunt came out and she said she wished she did it sooner as no one in the family had any negative thought on it. The worry was actually in her own mind. She is a lot happier living openly.[/quote]

I am black and I take GREAT offense to this position. How many black people do you know who are "anti-gay"? Being on the "down low" has nothing to do with being homophobic, but rather the inability for the man to accept his sexuality (this happens across all races). Please stop perpetuating the "blacks don't like gay people" crap. [/quote]

The down-low phenomenon refers to the propensity of the gay African American male to take a wife and girlfriends either as a product of bisexuality or of an attempt to hide his sexuality from society. While this certainly transcends racial lines, the "down low" in this case does refer to the African American male, and it is seen as a function of the relative disapproval of gay and lesbian lifestyles in black culture. This is a known issue, and the vernacular originated in African American parlance, and while it may now be used outside of those racial boundaries, it has roots there and that's what, generally speaking, it refers to.

BTW, I am not black, but a good friend is a researcher (he is black) and this is his field; he holds a PhD and has devoted his life to reversing the issue of anti-gay sentiment within the black community. I am really surprised that you'd say it's not an issue.

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Oh Dear Lord, now the anti-gay sentiment only exist in the Black community.  Really!  I guess you would be surprised that white men, Asian men, Latino men have not had beards in their community.  In your mind, only the Black community have men who have taken a wife or girlfriend in an attempt to hide ones sexuality.  It's no more of an issue in the Black community than it is in your non-Black community.  [/quote]

Where did you get that from what I said? I mentioned that there IS a strong anti gay sentiment within the black community - it is a black culture sub issue that many advocacy groups within the AA culture are struggling with / struggling to change. That doesn't mean that there is no anti-gay sentiment elsewhere. There are many, many cultures where anti-gay sentiment is rampant. But someone upthread said this is not a black issue and i'm pointing out that, according to my gay black friend who has carved out a career in trying to reverse the cultural sentiment, it absolutely is an issue in black culture. [/quote]

Why are you relying on hearsay from a third-party.  Why don't you address the anti-gay sentiment in your own community before trying to address what somebody told you about anti-gay sentiment in another's community.  [/quote]

When published work by a PhD in the subject is considered hearsay, I'll feel insulted by your argument. You have no idea what I've done to address the anti-gay sentiment in my community. and to PP upthread, I don't have "one black friend." I have dozens of black friends. Who gives a shit? It's not relevant to this discussion but the ONE black friend who happens to be published on this is. Now, PP right above saying why fight about this is the only one who is right on this thread. Sorry, OP, for derailing. I don't think you have an agenda. My cousin (we were so close growing up she's more like a sister) is gay. She struggled for a long time with her identity, how our family would take it, how everyone would take it. She's gay and Catholic, not an easy combination. She's the kindest person I know. I hate to hear of anyone's struggle in this area, as I know that she struggles also. I remember when all of that stupid chick fil a stuff was happening, how bad it made her feel. Not that that dumbass owner said what he said or donated to what he donated, but that so many people would drive out of their way to "support" that, and thereby say "we also think you gays are morally wrong, etc." F that.  [/quote]

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