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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP,

I have Temple Grandin in interviews has mentioned giving advice to adults with ASD/Asperbers to wash.

Bill Gates (suspected not confirmed Aspie) also had horrible hygiene b/f Melinda helped straighten him out.

Not sure why some kids want to be super clean vs. don't care--but I suspect sensory comes into play either way.[/quote]

Where did you read or hear from that Bill Gates had horrible hygiene? I lived in Seattle and had many friends who worked at Microsoft, saw Bill Gates on a daily basis. This goes against what I've heard from them. I don't know why people want to believe that Bill Gates or geniuses like Einstein had ASD. They didn't or don't. [/quote]

It was from a book published in 1993:
http://www.jonathans-stories.com/non-fiction/undiagnosing.html

Melinda and he married in 1994.  Steve Jobs also had questionable hygiene.  [/quote]
 In college I started out as a computer science major. I ended up majoring in something else but took had so many credits that my job out of college was in computer programming and analysis. As such I was around "computer geeks" for many years. Most are not ASD or Aspergers (no such thing as Aspergers per new DSM though). They are simply ultra focused on their passion and don't take the time for grooming. However, if they're going on a date, to an event, they certainly understand the importance of good hygiene. Many were married and had a great relationship with their spouses, no communication or social skills problems at all. It's a myth, really.

Rocking back and forth is a stim, for sure, but stims don't make for an ASD diagnosis entirely. My brother needs a squishy ball or pencil to twirl in his fingers as he concentrates but that doesn't make him ASD.

And many high level or intelligent people are abrupt and direct. I've seen CEO's cursing at meetings, say things that would have been construed as rude by Miss Manners. That doesn't make them ASD. Time is of the essence for such people and they don't want to deal with bullshit, thats all. [/quote]

So? What's your point? Other than being random and oddly defensive?

"Can't totally de-geek the geek,"
http://www.wbur.org/npr/123383699/temple-grandin-the-woman-who-talks-to-animals[/quote]

It's off point but the defensiveness is with the parents of ASD children perhaps, who probably think that by associating ASD with the geniuses of  our time, they can remove the stigma of this disorder. [/quote]

Asperger's did not appear as a diagnosis until the DSM-IV in 1994.  It's being rolled into Autism Spectrum Disorder/Asperger's type in the DSM-V this month, May 2013.   No one got an Asperger's diagnosis prior to the DSM-IV in 1994, so it's not being defensive so much as adults diagnosing themselves or historical figures with a syndrome that was not recognized until recently.  I know lots of people who I went to school with who probably would have qualified for a diagnosis if they went to school now instead of growing up in the 60ties, 70ties and 80ties.  Most of these adults did not have "good" school experiences although they did very well academically so I'm glad that kids like my DS gets the supports and help he needs.[/quote]

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