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[quote=Anonymous]I find the discussion about morality outside of religion to be an interesting topic.  I am a religious person (a Christian).

I agree with some of the things said on both sides of this.  I understand athiests and agnostics can be very ethical, morally good people.  I presume they are guided by their concsience and by the "rules" of society (rather than by a religious code).

But I wonder if such people are content to be their own judge of morality.  If that is the case, isn't it difficult to distinguish between the individual morals of one person as opposed to another.  What if those two people have completely different positions on a particular moral issue.  Isn't one objectively "right", leading one to lable the other's position as "immoral"?  If not, then moral relativism is in play and their is no overall norms of societal morality.

Also, what if one lives in a society that is fundamentally immoral?  Nazi Germany was such a society.  If a German were to subordinate his morals to those of that particular society, then he would be an immoral person.  So it does not necessarily follow that a society can always provide the moral guidelines.

Can any agnostic or athiest here explain to me how they deal with the problem of having an objective standard for morality?  I'm not arguing, I'm genuinely interested in a civil discussion.   [/quote]

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