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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]GBRS made me realize that the teacher just wasn't getting DC.  I thought I was crazy because my perception of DC was so different than hers.  The WISC showed me that I was right all along about DC, that DC really was smart.  Not bitter at teacher... it just made me realize that these teachers aren't experts in picking out 'gifted' behaviors.  They don't have any training in this.  They are teachers, trying to do the best they can. [/quote]

True, of course, they have more experience and expertise in identifying gifted behavior than you do, so there's that.[/quote]

Don't agree.  My DC's first grade teacher was a second year teacher who could barely handle the class.  She ended up leaving at the end of the school year, can't say she was more qualified.  Also, first and second year teachers were not uncommon in DC's school.  They are young and straight out of college just trying to get a hang of teaching, no I don't trust their qualification to identify gifted behavior.[/quote]

But, they remain eminently more qualified than you. You're viewing your child through a parent lense. They're viewing your child with more detachment. They also have formal education and experience and the ability to make relative comparisons to a broader range of children. Or, more simply, you bring biases, they don't. So, again, their input and evaluation of your child is more valuable than your own.[/quote]

[b]Just because you are biased re: your kids doesn't mean every one is.[/b]   I am very objective about my DCs , I spend a lot of time with them academically and know their strengths and weaknesses very well.  DS's K and second grade teachers were more qualified than I was to decide,  first grade  teacher, no way.  That is the problem with  the GBRS, it's  luck of the draw.  This is also not sour grapes DS got 15 GBRS.

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Whoa there, lady. You're extremely biased, to the point where you're not evening listening to what the teacher is communicating to you and having your view of the teacher CHANGED because s/he dared to not conform with your lofty notions of your child's abilities.

I, too, know my childrens' academic strengths and weaknesses. While I didn't have to advocate for them getting into the gifted program (they did that on their own), this town is full of children whose parents push bright children into advanced curriculums where they don't necessarily belong, largely out of desire to secure advantage for their child. A low GBRS is very telling. You can go in and argue it until you're blue in the face -- and something tells me you will -- but generally those impressions are pretty accurate and are overlooked only to appease an overzealous parent. So, if you want to be one of "those" parents, at least own it. Don't posture about how you're objective about your children.[/quote]

I won't be one of "those" parents because if you read the entire thread all I said was GBRS isn't always accurate because some teachers aren't qualified and I gave as an example my DS's first grade teacher who could barely handle the class and ended up leaving at the end of the year.  DS had a  15 GBRS and is in AAP without me having to advocate for him and didn't have to get WISC.  My only point was deferring to a low GBRS when there are high NNAT and CogAt scores isn't always the best.  Teachers aren't infallible.  People always assume that if a parent disagrees with the GBRS he/she is being one of "those" parent and that's not always the case.  You are also assuming the post you bolded was from the pp who said she got the WISC because of low GBRS.  It's not.  Anyway, there are always going to be people who assume that a low GBRS is more accurate that two tests and the parent's observation of their child.  I say, teachers are humans and if your child has high scores and you've seen how quickly your child gets things beyond their level, then advocate for your child, get the WISC and see if it supports you observations.  I think there are too many cases posted here of high NNAT, CogAt, and WISC but low GBRS for me to assume that whenever a parent disagrees with the GBRS he/she is one of "those" parent.  I clearly will not convinced anyone who thinks that the GBRS is always accurate that it's not always the case, so I'll bow out at this point.

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