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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How will the SAT change the amount of pages students can read?[/quote]

The purpose of SAT is not to do what you said. It is to increase the likelihood that students who can read well are admitted to UCs. At a poorly resourced high school in California, two 4.0 students with the same ECs can have fairly different math/reading ability that isn't reflected in their GPA due to grade inflation. By being test blind, schools have no way to tell their ability apart, potentially leading to the weaker 4.0 student getting admitted over the stronger one. This weaker student is the source of UC professors' complaint. By removing test blind, the schools can now better assess their math/reading ability and make a more informed decision. At the end of the day, the poorly resourced high school still has one student admitted. It is not losing its spot to an affluent high school. It just sends the stronger student to the UCs.[/quote]

The entire purpose of the SAT was to find the bright kids who didn't have the opportunity to go to Andover, Choate, St. Albans and so on - the usual lame students that glided through Harvard and Yale with gentleman Cs. There really was an attempt in the 80s and 90s to be pretty merit focused. And the SAT was a means to that end.

Obviously, things are different today. Colleges like Berkeley and other universities are going through contortions to dismiss tests as racist. But again. the entire purpose of standardized tests was to find smart kids of every background and get them into the top universities. [/quote]
I don't know if parents here are just nervous to be honest, but no the SAT is not to normalize the field. We have too many unqualified first gen students with no business going to an elite schools. It is okay for wealthier people to be in better positions and places. That's just life.

If we actually cared about merit, first the college admissions process is entirely too late. Second, we'd look at peer nations with much better rigorous standardized exams. You can get a 750 on the math section of the SAT and be completely unprepared for an engineering major. That's bonkers, but it is how we appease the DEI crowd. The point is there are too many students who shouldn't be at these schools, and that is okay. Hierarchy is not bad.[/quote]

The UCs have not given up admitting the truly gifted and brilliant students. These kids still get in to many UCs. The UCs have basically swapped the above average wealthy white smart kid/asian grinder for unprepared , average/below average IQ FGLI Hispanic kids. It’s driving faculty nuts because it’s breaking the curve model. They have a bunch swimming at the top, no one in the middle and a huge clump at the bottom. UC is about research not career readiness. It also drives them nuts seeing all these kids in majors whose career goals aren’t even served by that major while there is a Cal state with a program that teaches exactly to that career goal.

The different UC universities are also bizarre about private schools, some are feeders at one and shunned at another. Some have weird results , many have abysmal results. The same oddities play out in public schools. No idea what this is about or looking to achieve but probably aligned with the big socioeconomic class swap.[/quote]
This doesn’t make sense. UC campuses at the top are majority Asian.[/quote]

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