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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it’s that boomers didn’t make their husbands do anything. My mom went on and on about how my dad never changed a diaper. When I had my kids, he quietly learned how to change a diaper and changed my kids if they were wet when he was playing with them (often. He saw them daily). He told me my mom criticized everything he did and didn’t let him. Millennial men step up. They still might be lacking on emotional labor things like planning holidays or even cleaning a home. But I see mostly men at daycare pickup and drop offs. I was at an elementary school field trip today and it was half dads as chaperones. Men are at the playground en masse on the weekends with their kids. My dh rarely makes bottles. I EBF at home and on weekends, but pump for daycare. I make all the bottles because I have a way of mixing the milk and I made it all so I remember which bottle was morning milk, etc. [/quote] +2 My uncle and his wife, both in their seventies, visited last month. They were amazed that my husband was putting our toddler to bed. (And they are both classic educated liberals, so not MAGA types or anything.)[/quote] All men I’ve met are equally sexist. Liberals just try to hide it and cloak their sexism in what they think feminism is. For example, all the millennial men I know think they are so feminist for expecting women to be men. They want women to wait until 35+ to have kids because they (the men) don’t want to grow up before then, and they treat women who consider their biology in their career decisions as pathetic and unambitious. They are hostile to pregnant coworkers who want or need accommodations at work because they are grossed out by the differences of female biology, yet they call this callousness feminism (which obviously it is not). I get mad when people hold liberal men up on a pedestal as if they are actually more feminist and have evolved. It’s the same garbage just in a more insidious package. At least conservative men will tell you to your face you are less-than instead of gaslighting you about it.[/quote] I don't 100% agree with everything in this comment but there's a lot of truth here. There are huge gaps between the professed beliefs of many progressives and their actual behavior and choices. And people tend to be much more progressive in theory or when discussing other people, especially people they view as very different from themselves, than they are when making choices that affect their own lives. It's very, very hard for people to sacrifice a big advantage to progressive ideals. This applies to men and women, people of all races and backgrounds. [/quote]
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