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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just wondering lately, as I have witnessed so many parents with their toddlers on their electric bikes driving in rush hour how it is any different than having them on a motorcycle? At least on a motorcycle, people wear more than a bike helmet?[/quote]
It drives me nuts that parents will - 
not drink coffee while pregnant
or eat cold cuts
or sushi
or drink
and make sure their breastmilk is filter from forever plastics 
will get the uber expensive crib that monitors breathing
But have no problem with their toddler being on an ebike
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There's a simple explanation. It's performative, not safety, behaviors. [/quote]

Yes. What all the thinks PP lists have in common with riding around with your kids on an cargo e-bike is that they are all things UMC people can do to project that they are educated, left leaning, urban, and cosmopolitan.

I say this as an educated, left-leaning, city person. There are also other reasons to do all of those things, but there is an inherent hypocrisy that a lot of my peers ignore because living a certain lifestyle/projecting a certain images matters more to them than adhering to any actual values system or even logic.[/quote]

I don't know. I was annoyed by the look of these until I tried one and then realized how easy they make life. I'm truly not trying to signal anything. I do use it to take my son to school, on very slow city streets, averaging 12 mph. It's much faster than driving -- when driving i regularly get caught in a line at a red light and sometimes have to wait for a few light cycles, but ebikes can always go to the front of the block so you never get stuck. And you can park anywhere. and it feels much safer than my child biking himself, though we do that, too.

the commute is 1.5 miles

ebike commute: 7 minutes
car commute: 15 minutes
him biking himself: 20 minutes.

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This person is the perfect example. Let me risk my child's life so I can save myself a few minutes (while cutting in front of all the other cars).

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+1 This is so crazy. Cutting in front of all the cars to get ahead on the road by bike is the exact thing that will put you and your child in danger. Wait until a driver doesn’t notice that you creeped up in front of them last minute as they slam their pedal when the light turns green. This is exactly why all bikers need some sort of safety training and testing if they are going to be riding on the street. I had biker yell at me that I had a stop sign as they zoomed toward my car. Never mind that it was a 4-way stop and I, in fact, did stop, and waited my turn to go, while the biker did not stop at all and came out of nowhere - as if the rules of the road do not apply to bikers. Crazy behavior. [/quote]

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