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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just wondering lately, as I have witnessed so many parents with their toddlers on their electric bikes driving in rush hour how it is any different than having them on a motorcycle? At least on a motorcycle, people wear more than a bike helmet?[/quote]
It drives me nuts that parents will - 
not drink coffee while pregnant
or eat cold cuts
or sushi
or drink
and make sure their breastmilk is filter from forever plastics 
will get the uber expensive crib that monitors breathing
But have no problem with their toddler being on an ebike
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There's a simple explanation. It's performative, not safety, behaviors. [/quote]

Yes. What all the thinks PP lists have in common with riding around with your kids on an cargo e-bike is that they are all things UMC people can do to project that they are educated, left leaning, urban, and cosmopolitan.

I say this as an educated, left-leaning, city person. There are also other reasons to do all of those things, but there is an inherent hypocrisy that a lot of my peers ignore because living a certain lifestyle/projecting a certain images matters more to them than adhering to any actual values system or even logic.[/quote]

I don't know. I was annoyed by the look of these until I tried one and then realized how easy they make life. I'm truly not trying to signal anything. I do use it to take my son to school, on very slow city streets, averaging 12 mph. It's much faster than driving -- when driving i regularly get caught in a line at a red light and sometimes have to wait for a few light cycles, but ebikes can always go to the front of the block so you never get stuck. And you can park anywhere. and it feels much safer than my child biking himself, though we do that, too.

the commute is 1.5 miles

ebike commute: 7 minutes
car commute: 15 minutes
him biking himself: 20 minutes.

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This person is the perfect example. Let me risk my child's life so I can save myself a few minutes (while cutting in front of all the other cars).

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Im the PP. I don't cut in front of cars because I only bike on streets with designated bike lanes. But I can get to the end of every block on my bike (but in a car, I'm stuck behind other cars because it's a one-lane street). I'm lucky to live in a part of the city where the entire round trip ride can happen in bike lanes.

I really don't know what to tell people. I'm a very very experienced biker (as in a lived in a small town and had the kind of 1980s childhood depicted in Stranger Things where I biked everywhere), I biked to class in college, and Ive biked all over DC for the alst 20 years. bike lanes have made biking MUCH safer and easier. I'm truly, truly not signaling anything. It's just the easier, fastest way to get around the city.

I would not bike on an ebike if I lived somewhere where people drove more than 25 mph. [/quote]

None of that makes the people around you better drivers. [/quote]

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