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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The basic problem with G&T is that you’re reducing a spectrum of different levels of aptitude across different subjects (that can even change from year to year) with a single, binary, immutable “gifted” status. And inevitably either you set the threshold too high and leave out most of the kids who’d benefit from differentiated education or you set it too low and have everybody complaining that it’s meaningless.

Differentiated instruction within a classroom seems like a much better approach, particularly for a big messy school system like NYC; put the strong math kids at a math table with other strong math kids, put the strong readers with strong readers, assign extra enrichment for kids who need it, offer extracurriculars like math team and debate and writing contests… everyone gets what they need and nobody is reduced to a single “gifted” flag or not.

(This sort of approach is much easier to pull off with a smaller classroom, which is why full implementation of the class size law is so important)[/quote]

Agreed that the flag of "gifted" is suboptimal and leads to unnecessary resentment. What I disagree on is differentiated instruction within the classrooms in a huge system like NYC. Teachers focus on those who are behind. This is the reality. Smart kids are left to their own devices because of course they'll be "fine". Too often they are used as in-class tutors for other children.

With regard to the class size law, NYC already has small class sizes, mostly in undersubscribed schools in less advantaged neighborhoods. Class sizes are larger in schools in the best districts with the most desirable schools. It's a fool's errand.[/quote]

I think schools are actually worst for kids who are "good but not great." I have two kids. One is gifted. Good teachers managed to keep them challenged and interested in Gen Ed classes. They were highly motivated and it occasionally were a bit frustrated by others who couldn't keep up but overall it was fine. Partially because there were often a few other kids like them in the class. Note that we never felt the need to supplement, Russian Math, tutor, whatever else. Once they got to an advanced HS they still excelled, even amongst kids who went to G&T, Speyer, etc.

My other child is very bright but not as bright nor as motivated. They did "fine." But were capable of doing more. But because they weren't struggling (to your point) but also weren't a brilliant superstar who the teachers could dote on, the teachers decided that "fine" was good enough - my kid was capable of a 93 but got an 87 and weren't pushed to get to 93 (my other kid got 99 or 100). The squeaky wheel gets the grease.[/quote]

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