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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Education is run by progressive liberals who don't understand the consequences of their soft teaching.

We need to be focused on educating our kids with math and reading. And discipline, consequences. For all kids. We are too focused on feelings, making kids feel good.

As the saying goes, the worst preparation of adulthood is a stress free childhood. [/quote]

How can we get back to actually educating our children as a society? I don’t mean a return to rapping kids with rulers, just telling kids they are WRONG when they say 2+2 =5 or spell “said” as “sed.” Right now they are complimented on their thinking and creativity and asked how they got there and to please show everyone else how they did it. No! Don’t teach 20 kids the wrong way! Tell the 1 kid that he is wrong and here is the correct answer. [/quote]

If you volunteered in an actual classroom, you would see that teachers do that. But you want to invent a world in which schools somehow don't teach kids, when in reality, they very much do.

It's clear you have an agenda and are not basing your rants in reality.

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My rants on based on volunteering a lot more over and actually seeing what’s happening at school. I was oblivious and assumed school was great in kindergarten. [/quote]

You seem to have a catastrophizing mindset. Are you one of these people who think in black and white? If it's not great, it's terrible? Because that's how you're coming across. No, schools are never great. They cannot be great, since they're a collective effort. But it doesn't mean they're terrible either.

I do not particularly love the way public elementaries run their classrooms in my area... but my kids attend or attended these public schools, and I, as the parent, make sure they know what I think they should know. It works out. My oldest's first grade class had 31 kids and the teacher was completely overwhelmed. Kids were yelling and throwing paper planes. I thought no learning was actually happening. Fast forward to now, he's in college and is doing well. He was always a bookworm, like all of us in the family, and he's well-read, polite and took 12 APs in high school, including Latin. My second kid will take 14 APs and has won writing awards. I have volunteered extensively at all my children's schools: I don't think I've seen anything as bad as that first grade class :-)

Plenty of kids do well in public schools, because their families figure it out. If you want, you can teach your children yourself, find a private that will fit your idea of what a classroom should like (newsflash - a lot of them behave like public schools!), or hire tutors for your children. So instead of whining, find solutions that work for you.

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If your kid is in college now and you don't work in public schools, you have no idea what we are talking about in this thread.[/quote]

PP you replied to. The principal and staff of my kids' elementary is still the same and there has been little turnover. I have several kids and volunteered extensively for all of them, so no, I disagree that I don't know what's going on. But it's a no-win situation: if you don't have older kids who have experienced all the system, you are told that you need perspective and that it actually does work out in the end, provided you stay vigilant and hire tutors if necessary. If you have older kids, with proof that they turned out well, you are told that schools have changed so much that your lived experience cannot possibly be valuable to the present circumstances. This is of course, wrong.

Please do not discount the experience of others who have gone before you.
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It’s just basic math. EdTech was widely rolled out in 2015-2016. Your current college student was not handed an iPad when he was in kindergarten. [/quote]

But my youngest was (in first grade). And now she's a high achiever in 10th grade.
Again. Do not dismiss the experience of older students.

Also, I want to tell this Fresh Lot of Complainers:

When my oldest was about 4, and I discovered DCUM, there was this exact same thread!!! :-) 
MCPS is not what it used to be. MCPS is going down the drain. It's public school, but I paid a ton for my house in an expensive neighborhood so I expect better.
My son did a few years in an MCPS elementary and a private elementary (where we saw all primary years are essentially wasted from an intellectual point of view), and then secondary school was all MCPS. 
Now he is 21, extremely well-read and altogether rather over-educated.
And EVERY year on this board, there has been this exact same thread!

I am sure that this has been the case ever since group education was invented  :lol:

Do not think your kids have it harder than previous kids who came before them, at any moment in the history of humankind, regardless of which technology is in the classroom.

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