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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do.  You could not be more run in terms of skills.  I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective.  However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose.  You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong.  So. Totally. Wrong.  Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech.  Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name.  There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans.  Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people.  They are not rock star geeks :)

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I hire in biomedical research and what you’re saying is true for us too. Not enough Americans are graduating with Ph.Ds and doing postdocs for the price that republicans are willing to pay via NIH funding. And yet, the work still needs to be done. If not, we will continue to fall further behind the rest of the world.[/quote]
Who wants to spend 10-12 years doing a PhD and postdoc for minimum wage and the reward of uncertain job prospects while their peers are out establishing themselves in well-paying careers? The current science model in this country is a joke. [/quote]

I don't believe it is a coincidence that the postdoc training programs just so happen to be on exactly the H-1B/Perm time frames.  For most Americans these programs just don't make any sense, going into physics or biomedicine then doing postdoc after postdoc every three years until you get tenure and "Academic freedom".  Oh, that's the H-1B renewal period and about the time every three years until you're no longer eligible then you get on a tenure track is when you get a green card.[/quote]

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