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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are not top students. Average SAT is relatively low.
Also the physical test is not that hard that most of the average athlete should be able to pass.[/quote]

You have no idea what you're talking about. The physical tests (plural!) are very challenging. For the Naval Academy last year, even recruits scoring in the top group of the physical tests weren't guaranteed admission.

I know one female who scored in the top 5% overall who was waitlisted and got in over the Summer. She was an excellent student and serious athlete who was in the top group for all the physical tests. The academies are elite.[/quote]

They are not top students. Average SAT is relatively low.
Also the physical test is not that hard that most of the average athlete should be able to pass.

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It's not a simple pass/fail. Where you rank in the physical tests matters. This isn't like going down to your local enlistment office and just meeting minimum requirements.

But just keep making up stuff to denigrate the academies, loser.[/quote]

West Point uses a formula to rank candidates. Generally, the breakdown is roughly:

60% Academic: GPA, Class Rank, and SAT/ACT scores.
30% Leadership: Extracurriculars, teacher evaluations, and the Congressional Nomination.
10% Physical: The CFA score.

Nothing really much different from regular colleges.
Their test scores are relatively lower than competitive colleges.

Stop fabricating.

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I think the trick is that the test scores are relatively lower than competitive colleges in conjunction with other requirements:

Tests are mandatory, so the bottom of the distribution shows up in the report. E.g. UVA's 25th percentile SAT is ~1410. But almost half of incoming UVA students are test optional! Not implausible that the true "25th percentile" number at UVA is much lower than the Naval Academy's 1200.

No extra time on tests. This knocks the "competitive college" submitted test averages down by 50 points or more.

Prep time for tests & etc. is limited because you need to be on the practice field with your sports team.

Has to be in good health.

Has to be in shape.

Has to be disciplined enough to not have been in too much trouble, while at the same time having enough testosterone to meet the physical requirements.[/quote]

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