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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There seems.to a lot of blame on teachers not teaching. What about students not learning? I am a good teacher and go over content in many different ways. I discuss it with notes, have students discuss every few slides with prompted questions so I can check if there are trouble spots and I do an activity that supports the concepts for the day. I teach an AP class and I would say only 20% take notes. Of those that do, it is rarely beyond the printed words on the slides. So, not helpful if they don't have the explanation to go with it when/if they study.

I would love for parents to be a fly on the wall for one day and see how your kid's actually act in school. I don't allow laptops but phone sneaking, sleeping, doing work for other classes is the norm rather than the exception. I call them out on off task behavior but at some point you just need to focus on the kids that actually want to learn. School isn't magic- kids have to put the work in and review every day.[/quote]

How about you create the notes and post in the Schoology or have book chapters for students to use? Unless the focus of your class is learning how to take notes, you shouldn’t be making mastery of that skill a prerequisite to study the material. I am sure there are exceptions, but in all the years I’ve thought STEM postgraduate courses, I have never met a professor who did not provide the studying material and let students just focus on the lesson and participation. Or better yet, do what is done in college - provide the material ahead of the lesson. That way they can come even better prepared to participate and ask questions. But that would require too much work from you, right? I know teacher salaries are not great, but neither are salaries for most college professors. You ca blame the students, or you can try to see what is your own role here.[/quote]

DP.

You work with postgraduates who have already demonstrated interest and competence in your field. They got there by learning skills in k-12, with teachers who understood that giving students everything isn’t effective or practical. You give notes to a 10th grader and they’ll be playing Roblox on their phone before you say “Good morning, class.” At the lower levels, teachers have to help students find purpose, motivation, and the skills necessary to perform in a classroom or lab. They do the hard work so students can make it to you.

So before you insult teachers (“require too much work for you, right?”) and assume they are to blame (“see what is your own role here”), perhaps recall that your teaching experiences don’t remotely compare. There are a lot of hard-working teachers behind those STEM postgraduates who understood that study skills are intertwined with content mastery, and so they taught both.  [/quote]

I am PP you responded to.

Actually, you are wrong. I have taught and studied in several countries, and have many friends around the world. The concept that I described is very much used in all countries that have higher achievement scores than the United States. Not only that students have books and are required to read before they come to school, but they are also taught early on how to take notes. It begins with very simple and straightforward writing tasks day in and day out. It is integrated into teaching penmanship and focus. By the time they reach high school, note-taking is not a foreign concept.

I know you might not like my opinion (and that’s ok), but I do think that teachers who don’t post or hand out any material for students to study from are plain lazy. Luckily, not all teachers are the same. [/quote]

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