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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem is kids sacrifice so much that had they known that they could sacrifice much less and enjoy their high school experience and have a similar or comparable college outcome. I think they would do it differently.

Grinding away to get into a top school and then to end up at your Flagship can feel disappointing when you would’ve gotten into the Flagship with 50% of the effort.[/quote]

This. It doesn’t mean the kid falls apart if the state flagship is where he ends up, but it is not where the kid wanted and - as said above - could have likely been achieved with much less effort over many years.

This is how my kids felt about uva even though it’s a great school. It’s not uva they didn’t want, they didn’t want that to be the result of their effort or they would have modified their effort. [/quote]

Again, had they “modified their effort” they wouldn’t have gotten in.  [/quote]

I don’t think that’s really true. There is a different level of working commitment needed to be in the running for a top 10 school versus UVA. You can still be well academically without having to kill yourself on the research and extracurricular funds in creating worldwide impact. And still get into UVA. I say this is someone from out of state. The kids from our private who get into UVA and end up there do not have other top tier options.
Same for Michigan. [/quote]

Correct. My friend's kid did not get into ivy as legacy or any other elites but did get into UVA OOS. 
They were disappointed but glad they did not have to go to their flagship(UNC) because that would be a huge let down in state for a top-few student in the class. That is how most top in-state VA students feel about UVA, just a fact. The world is competitive and many of these students want the gold star for getting into the ivy type, even though they can reach almost every lifetime goal at UVA or UNC. [/quote]

This is such bullshit.  How the hell do you know what “most top in-state students feel about UVA?”  What makes is “just a fact?”  That YOU say so?

Two thirds of in state kids admitted to UVA choose to go?   Do you really think that none of those kids—virtually all of whom were high achievers—did not have any more highly ranked options?   How can you possible speak for thousands of kids?[/quote]

It is not BS, there are plenty of us on here who have top students at top schools where UVA is not the desired outcome. 
The 2/3 number includes those who ED. At our kids schools, a private and a public magnet, UVA is a backup for top students. It is rare anyone in the top 5-10% ED there. Kids lower down ED when the counselors make it clear junior year that they have no shot at ivies/stanford/JHU. The instate yield for EA at UVA is under 40%. [/quote]

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