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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just looked online and Achilles in league play is...
U13 13th of 17
U14 16th of 17
U15 15th of 16
U16 14th of 15
U17 11th of 15
U19 11th of 15[/quote]

Now do how many Achilles FC players are presently playing in Europe. Now tell us how your club is doing? [/quote]

Oh Pleeze with the propaganda 🙄

Every MLS Next and ECNL club in the DMV have a couple players good enough to go to different level academies in Europe. 
It's all about passports and whether a family wants to do it or not.

[b]How much was Achilles paid by European clubs for transfers? [/b][/quote]

We are not with Achilles but considering them and these conversations are so lame.  Why does the fee Achilles receives matter?  We, as parents, are paying the cost of development and a free transfer into a European academy is the best method to enter the system with no risk to the academy.  While some American P2P clubs have been known to receive payments based on what is reported to FIFA, the entire point of training with a club like Achilles is to receive the technical training similar to European academies and not be encumbered if your kid is good enough to play overseas (DCU will demand a payment that will probably prevent a move).  We do know families who have moved to Achilles within the last year and those parents know more about development than the average DMV soccer Mom and Dad making decisions via the Rankings app so I do trust their judgement.  I can learn from them and their overseas experience versus taking an American approach of arrogance.

I don't really understand the acceptance of mediocrity in this area.  Many of our kids are capable of being in a European academy while young but they drop off around U16.  The drop-off is because of the lack of technical work practiced under pressure between ages 11 and 15.  It is a cumulative effect.  I really don't think you guys are educated at all on this process because Achilles are out-producing all of the major clubs when it comes down to the resources and number of players they have in their system which is why we are considering them.  They don't have the horses as they are boutique as they say.

Yes, we will have to absorb losing alot if we go to them.  Yes, I will have to will have to brace for confrontation because Sal does not back down and neither do I.  No, my kid is not guaranteed a "MLS Next" spot and will have to earn a spot week after week.  No, my kid will not practice against the same level of talent daily he has with his current club.  We have to weigh these out to make the best decision for us. Whether we make the move over there or not, if more clubs followed their system, we could compete with Philly for mid-Atlantic dominance.  Stop hating on them and get curious about how they are getting their results and replicate it at your "big club." The DMV is not producing the level of talent we are capable of and no where near on par with the amount of money invested in youth soccer in this area.[/quote]

Are you Sal's mother or wife?

This greatness in ball whisperer training kids are supposedly getting at Achilles is an Urban Myth 
There are multiple coaches at small clubs around the DMV that are developing highly technical and high IQ players. 
These coaches have been at higher levels as professional, international players and coaches than that at Achilles

Achilles is basically a limited scope training camp for one type of player. The futsal type player on 5v5 small sided games.

The only results we see and mentioned here often is the fact that the lack of coaching box to box  results in consistent lopsided defeats at every age group 
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[b]Please show us the player development results of these coaches you're talking about and compare the number of kids[/b] at MLS Academies, national team ids, and international academies.  And.....a simple fact check on your last point: U17s are 4-4-5 and not on the end of lopsided defeats (well....one).[/quote]

Who has a database tracking every youth club in the dmv and the movements of every player who left those clubs?

I'm sure World Class Premier, a EDP club based on size is much more successful with actually developing kids than Achilles

To be clear, Achilles hasn't sent a soul to any European academy. 
Parents and kids send themselves. Which kids with European passports from any club can do.

As for the U17s, we all know that last year Achilles got a bunch of 2009s from other clubs and all of a sudden, the 2009s are the only decent team there. [/quote]

This is literally the dumbest argument.

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