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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You guys are crazy. Our 4 year old definitely still needs to nap for at least an hour. At home, she'll nap for 2+ hours and still be ready for bed by 7:30pm. Growing brains need sleep.[/quote]

You have a high sleep needs child. Your 4 year old sleeps more than my 14 month old. She only sleeps 12.5 hour total a day. If her nap is 3 hours she sleeps 9.5 bedtime. 2 hour nap, 10.5 hours overnight. etc etc
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My 4 year old also naps for 2+ hours at home and is ready for bed by 8. All the research suggests that kids at this age hugely benefit from a nap. I don't think this is a 'high sleep needs' situation (whatever the heck that's supposed to mean).[/quote]

Wow okay so it's apparent anyone with a high sleep need kid doesn't constantly question if their kid is normal and look up the research. I probably wouldn't either if I was parenting 2-3 hours less a day  :D

Anyways high sleep needs means that on the average for the age you are on the higher end or even above the higher normal. Reciprocally, there is low sleep needs so kids who dont nap for 2 hours and still dont go to bed at 8. When my kid was your age if he napped 2 hours during the day he didnt sleep until 1030. Now, you would be aghast at that because 1030!!!!! but because there is a max number of hours a person will sleep in a 24-hour period and sleep pressure is a real thing then he needed 2 hours less at night and also needed at least 7 hours before having enough pressure to fall asleep. We did everything- no screens, 3 hours+ outside playing when home, no dairy, magnesium, deep pressure massages, no fluorescent lighting after sundown, hug sleep pod, red light after sundown only, did a whole OT bedtime ritual, prayed to old Norse gods  :lol:

With my current 16mo old she will only sleep 12-12.5 hours. That's it. If she has a 2-hour nap at daycare she sleeps 10 hours overnight (830-630). We keep wake time within 15-30 min even on the weekends. If she has a 3 hour nap then she either wont fall asleep until 930 or she wakes up and wants to party for an hour or two from 2-5am. She is considered average lower sleep needs since the average is 11-14 which covers 75-90% of kids. If, at 16mo old your kid was taking two naps and also in bed by 730 thus totaling 14 hours, they were high sleep needs. Your 4-year-old (total needs 10-13) sleeping 2 hours at nap plus bedtime at 8 and even if waking at 5 that's still 11 hours. If they wake up at 630, 12.5 If they wake up past 630, know you are blessed.

For many of us who have kids on the lower end of average needs, a long nap in the middle of the day is extremely disruptive. They need x number of hours to fall asleep for nap and then x+ additional y hours to have enough sleep pressure to fall asleep for bedtime, and most importantly, stay asleep. Ill also add that we found that my kid slept less total when they napped. And another big factor is naps are typically 1-3 at daycare. If my kid wakes up at 630 then its 6.5 hours of wake time. You need more sleep pressure for overnight sleep so imaging 7.5-8 means a 1030-11 pm bedtime because nap ends at 3.

Lastly, the research (btw) says 45 min is sufficient enough sleep to convey benefits. [/quote]

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