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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....[/quote]

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted. [/quote]

She passed out during which means she could not legally consent. I assume nobody thought that way 25 years ago, but we do now and [b]that wasn't managed well in the docu thing. [/quote][/b]

Ok, thanks. Definitely not blaming her but it would have been a great teachable moment to show or discuss what wasn’t seen.

I only listened (while walking) to when the model first discussed it but then was watching the part when it was reshown on Tyra’s show. It would be so powerful for kids to see and hear people saying:

- she was passed out
- she was non responsive 
- she was incoherent 
- she was uncommunicative

Etc. to show this was rape. In no way am I blaming this then-kid, but it is such a vital topic now, it is a huge missed opportunity to not show or discuss this. Yes, years ago silence wasn’t really taken as a no but this wasn’t showing it. No clips? Then say: “what wasn’t shown is that after this….”

Awful that so many were around her and failed to stop or help…even afterwards - speaking up and getting her help. I don’t mean just the other models. This poor girl…[/quote]Are you saying you want to see and/or hear the details of her assault? Did you want her to recount the trauma play-by-play for you? Did you want to watch the footage? Her trauma is not your teachable moment. Every time the footage is shown and she has to talk about it is probably re-traumatizing her. We can teach consent without forcing victims to the stage.[/quote]

you’re looking for something that isn’t there and isn’t my view. What I would have hoped is that they don’t show her wide awake and participating. I would like them to say: it doesn’t show that she was x and this was an assault OR say the video gave a false representation - she was x and this was assault. It does a disservice to her and other girls to show Y and give no explanation.

I’m not responding further to you and your grinding axe. [/quote]And I’m saying that it should never have been their decision to show or say anything at all. It should always be up to the survivor. She had no choice in the matter. They chose to film it and then chose to air heavily edited parts of it. We should never assume “This is a good teachable moment” and use a survivor’s story as a lesson without their explicit consent. Again, we can teach consent without forcing survivors to the front.[/quote]

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