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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes of course. Especially for pre-med or pre-law, it’s so much smarter to do undergrad at an in-state honors program, get top GPAs, and save money for a top 20 medical school. No one cares where you went to undergrad if you have a Harvard law or Stanford medical degree (no one remembers Barack Obama went to Occidental).

So many kids get burned out from [b]grade deflation[/b] at undergrads like Johns Hopkins, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, U Chicago and have little gas left in the tank (plus no savings and low GPA) left to support a run for a top post-grad which is where it will really count in this AI era. [/quote]

All of the schools you mention are no longer deflated. Lower than Harvard and Brown's median GPA of 3.9, to be fair, but hardly deflated. As of 2022-2023 they have medians of 3.65-3.75 and rising.  Same or higher range than UVA, UCB, UCLA. As long as one can be around average at those schools, they can get into tier-2 med and law, if they can be a little above average (3.85+)they can get T14 law and T20 med. Med and Law schools know the medians of undergrads, they know a 3.90 at Harvard or Brown is around the same as a 3.75 from the less inflated ivy-types. [/quote]

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