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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We aren’t low income as a family or first generation to attend college, but live in a low income zip code and teen attends large public title 1 school. Will graduate in top 1%, lots of DE and AP classes, expecting SAT to be above 1500 based on PSAT scores. No national awards, but some cool ECs, strong leadership, job, interesting hobby. No one, or rarely anyone, applies to college out of state. He is wanting a school in top 5-20 (which are all out of state). Does coming from a school with limited resources and no one from your high school applying give an admission boost? [/quote] Um, no. If anything, it's probably a detriment. Do you have some cynical notion that admissions officers will look more favorably on a child who has "survived" a ... what ... ghetto environment or some shit like that?[/quote] It’s actually really hard to do well, stay motivated, and seek out opportunities to excel when everyone around you is far below grade level, into trouble, and completely apathetic about school. [/quote] There’s a lot of research showing that integrated schools benefit all students, including higher-income and higher-achieving kids. https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2015/10/19/446085513/the-evidence-that-white-children-benefit-from-integrated-schools Have your kids attended Title I schools? Assuming that being surrounded by lower-income students automatically makes it “really hard to stay motivated,” or that high-achieving kids are somehow held back, just isn’t true at our school. It’s absolutely possible to stay motivated, take rigorous classes, lead, etc. My children and their friends have done exactly that and have gone on to attend top schools in Virginia and across the country. I don’t know whether attending a Title I school is a “hook,” but colleges evaluate students in context and understand that students who’ve learned in socioeconomically and culturally diverse schools often develop adaptability, perspective, and openness that serve them well in college. If more parents could look beyond GreatSchools ratings, they might find that their children gain exposure to different perspectives and experiences. Title I schools aren’t lacking because of the students; they’re under-resourced because of broader structural issues.[/quote] Disagree. It absolutely is harder to find rigor in title 1 schools. In the regular or “honors” classes, there is nothing honors about them. Teachers have to significantly lower expectations and tailor assignments to what most of the class can realistically be successfully completing. Even the AP classes are not as good. Teachers often cannot get through a years worth of content. If you take an AP class, you practically need to self study all year and do plenty of test prep if you want a 4/5. The class alone will not prepare you well at all. You have to be extremely self motivated outside of school and disciplined to move ahead in these schools. [/quote] None of this is true about the urban Title 1 HS my DS attended in CA. Passed all APs and got 4s and 5s on 80% of them, with minimal self study and test prep outside of class. [/quote] Similar experience with both of my kids at a high FARMS / ESOL school in NOVA. They are not first gen, played club and varsity sports, 4s and 5s on AP exams, with no outside help. Leadership roles on and off campus. Most of their friends were academically focused students. Friends off to UVA, VT, some “fancy” SLACs, UGA, UT, UF, Wisco. A few playing their sports in college as well. Was attending that school a hook? Not sure, but it didn’t hurt them in my view. We were also able to save more money for college tuition by not paying too much for our house in a more prestigious school pyramid. No regrets![/quote] Forgot to add, the my kids and their friends took 7+ AP courses. Some taking 10. [/quote]
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