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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hope they find new jobs elsewhere. [/quote]

You so funny. One of them I found out got fired last two jobs. They stay like cockroaches till shown the door. I was told staff like this do bare minimum not to get fired. They dont care about raises or promotions. They yes you to death, shuffle papers and when it catches up there a million low level jobs they get another one and usually a pay jump. In fact one actually told me other than small cost of living increases every pay jump he got was switching jobs.

Did not really talk to the today as I am filling out a job application myself.  I reinvented myself as an AI expert and even spoke at two conferences  recently. My company actually allows outside employment on Boards or part time jobs.

It has come to point I will ignore them four days a week going forward since I  cant offer advice and they don't want to learn I will just give them tasks have a weekly meeting and just check their progress. If fall too far behind PIP them. To be honest if I get 10-15 hours a week work out of them is enough. They are like if I entered my garage man in a figure skating competition.  What is point of even attempting to train the Garbage man.

Or I can just hire someone like I did at one job to watch them and I just deal with that person. I used to not talk to my staff about work for months at a time at one point. sometimes  I talk to them about work 2-3 hours a year. But hard to find a good second fiddle to do my dirty work.          [/quote]

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