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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm really disappointed.  There's no way she didn't know who he was.  Do I think she is a pedo?  No.  But she loved his attention, she loved his gifts.  She turned a blind eye to who he was.  He was buying her spa days at Four Seasons and designer bags.

It just goes to show that you can have a fancy degree, fancy jobs and still be a complete, pathetic loser.  I hope she never lives this down and it mars her reputation.  [/quote]
Catering to people like Epstein are how you get where she is, unless you come from a very powerful family full of people like...Epstein.

A lot of you really don't want to accept how power and the acquisition of power work. Is it that you're scared to face how power works or does it hurt too much to accept that personal brilliance and hard work won't get you there? [/quote]

You don’t believe a woman can become general counsel at a global financial institution without kissing a pedophile’s a$$?[/quote]
You struggle with conceptual thinking, don't you? Let me help you: No one attains a highly sensitive position of power like White House Counsel without the backing of elite powerbrokers. No one gets that backing without making serious moral and ethical compromises and being willing to look the other way on serious moral and ethical misdeeds.[/quote]

Baby I don’t know why you are making ad hominem attacks here. It is unnecessary to tell other posters they “struggle with conceptual thinking.”  Is that how you converse with people in real life?

Either engage in civil discussion or don’t respond.

Many people at the top are corrupt and immoral. But it’s not everyone.  I know A FEW people personally who have served as cabinet secretaries, Senators and a bunch of representatives. Like, 10 people. They aren’t evil.

So it’s not “everyone”.

Besides that, I don’t know what your point is. Kathy R is a basic b who sold her soul for a Birken. What a loser. [/quote]

DP but boy howdy does this response scream “ a hit dog will holler” [/quote]

Disagree. [b] All of us who have achieved enough power to see into those rooms know that having that much power does make it possible to join circles like those of Jeffrey Epstein. [/b] Only someone completely amoral would choose to associate themselves with him.  Kathy Reummler is obviously in that camp (based on her communications with Epstein alone).  Not every person with power would sell their soul for a couple of botox shots, some time on a private island, and a fawning manipulator's attention.  She did.  Bad look.[/quote]

So you admit that you know $hit like this goes on and yet you did nothing. Again, hit dog will holler. You’re the problem.[/quote]

I know things like this happen because I read about the Epstein files.  This information has been public for decades.  Do you think that when you get into rooms where people are trying to curry favor, they openly say: I am asking you this favor because you cheated on your wife in my cabin last weekend?  No,.  The person in power knows this.  How would I, as an aide, intervene exactly?  Jump up and say: why are you giving him this favor, John?  It's all in the background.  No one is confessing their crimes and quid pro quos.

The problem is not that no one spoke up.  Many women spoke up as did other people in power.  The problem is that no one currently in power cares a bit.  [/quote]

You’re trying to have it both ways, dear. Either you are powerful enough to “see into these rooms” OR you simply read the Epstein files (like everyone else is capable of, regardless of alleged achievements).

[b]Pretending [/b]that if someone doesn’t explicitly say “I am committing X crime for Y reason” that everything is perfectly above board is EXACTLY the problem.

People like you look the other way and lie to yourselves because you GET something out of it. Probably something completely ordinary, like a bit more money for a nicer car or a bigger house or private school tuition. But burying your head in the sand when you’re one of the folks”in these rooms” (your claim, not mine) makes you complicit. Stop kidding yourself.[/quote]

Do you actually want to have a civil conversation or do you want to just make people shut up?  Do you want to know how power works or just get more confident in your own arrogant assumptions about it.  Because, here on this site, without caring, you are talking to people who have been in many of the "rooms where it happens."  And all you can do is tell them how it works.  It doesn't even occur to you to ask.  Because you think you know everything already.  It would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

And you walk around calling people morons and idiots like that's not stopping the conversation?  Odd.[/quote]

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